Suggestion: Anti-Freeze Whoopee Cap at 61 keys

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~190 keys

anti-freeze

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This suggestion was accepted Sun, 23 Apr 17 02:26:56 +0000 by Horizon.

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needs update

sold for 61 pure

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198028274974#!/compare/1491782400/1492041600

What about the other sale? http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198042285872#!/compare/1490486400/1491782400

Would end up needing a range but 44-61 is quite large, but considering both are pure can you take averages still?

Both sales are very recent, would be better to wait for him to sell again to determine an outlier if needed.

True, considering he needs to resugg anyway this should be closed

Since he sold it for 61 full pure, it feels like that sale is an outlier. 61 flat is fine here!

You could say the same about the 44...... "he sold it for 44 pure, 61 is the outlier". SSgay is right, wait for a third to balance it out. Clearly its selling now

44-60 is fine as a range, honestly.

had a 12 key range once and another black belt told me the range was too big. Ive never made a range that big again xD but erik just backed it up so okay

Yeah, I dunno who told you that, could've been right depending on the situation. There's not arbitrary "too big" range.

Think about it. A 12 key range on a low-tier hat, like 10-22 or something, would be ridiculously wide and dumb. But a 12 key range on a god-tier, like 1000-1012, is SUCH a minor range it'd probably get ignored or rounded out. Needs to be thought about on a case-by-case basis :P

yea it was for a neutron star hat, I was going 38-50 and this seems around the same price tier. But if its okay here then f*** the guy that told me that

Yeah that's a fine range, dunno why they told you that :)

My go-to is that the high-end shouldn't be more than 1.4x the low-end for hats less than 200 keys, and 1.2x the low-end for hats more than 200 keys. But that's just me, that's not a concrete rule or anything.

Case by case basis it is indeed: http://backpack.tf/suggestion/58f6301ec4404565621d94a9

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28846115

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198042285872#!/compare/1490486400/1491782400

According to his TF2Outpost trade he sold it for 60 pure. Unfortunately the compare link does not confirm this. Anyhow, he had it in his inventory for 3+ months. He also kept relisting:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28317966

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28792203 (since then he began actively selling; 2 months ago)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28841976

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28846115

His B/O has also been 60 keys. But if he did really sell it for 44 keys, then 44-60 keys wouldn't be a problem here. Given that it still took him quite some time to sell it. Probably used the keys to buy another hat. 44-60 keys or 60 flat either could work.

Another sale:

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198028274974#!/compare/1492560000/1492819200

Bulk.

Either way, this sale is going to get capped at a B/O of 60 keys. So if you want an entirely accurate suggestion, then please resuggest at 60 keys flat.

That's the same sale, but from seller's side. It sold for 60 keys, and 16 keys were used to buy the Dogger:

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198042285872#!/compare/1490486400/1491782400 ----- Seller's side showing 44 keys and the Dogger.

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198028274974#!/compare/1491782400/1491868800 ----- Buyer's side showing 61 keys (one was used to buy the taunt)

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198232122560#!/compare/1491696000/1491782400 ----- Dogger seller receiving 16 keys (Topper wasn't related)

There is no sale for 44 since the other one is bulk:

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198028274974#!/compare/1491868800/1492819200

I'm surprised no one else caught this, the 44 key sale doesn't exist, it's the sale which op linked right away (he said it's 61 when its only 60 tho, he probably didn't see that 1 key for the taunt).

And yeah the only other recent sale is bulk.

That being said, I don't require him to resuggest just because of 1 key. This is close enough and better than current.

Very few in existence according to backpack.tf so I think only need 1 sale example makes enough sense.

No. There is another pure sale at 44, so we dont know which is the outlier, so need a 3rd sale tbh (as said by ssgay)

Yeah see this gets hard then since only what like 2-3 in existence according to backpack.tf so any one sale could be an outlier as people above are stating. So as you said we'd need a third sale but if this is most recent then that could make this the top influencing sale on this choice.