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Scorching Flames Winter Woodsman
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Scorching Flames Winter Woodsman


1:1 non-strange, 1 recent sale. Posting for 13+H because he doesn't have enough vote power :(


The Sale:

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198130713078#!/compare/1492214400/1492387200

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198130713078?time=1492214400 Before

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198130713078?time=1492387200 After

Sold for a Burning human cannonball 275 keys (indate) + Fountain of delight Zoomin broom (235, open suggestion)

275 + 235 = 510

X = 510


Broom Mini:

http://backpack.tf/suggestion/5909622d0e2cad68b919a1bb


Only sale, owner doesn't seem to be reselling.


Final Price: 510 keys

    Damn, that was a low sale.

      Yep, unboxers need help XD

        And almost 50% of the total value was in taunts :(

          Unboxers are quite unexperienced most of the time.

      Being priced lower then sunbeams? rippo xd

        This looks fine. Honestly sunbeams woodsman at 775 was hard to quicksell @ 445 and woodsmans in general I find are a pain to sell having owned a boatload of Woodsman.. This should be fine as long as it doesn't resell.

          So pricing it off of what looks a lot like a shark is fine? Really? One for sale on scm, looks like increasing the limit has helped them.

            Nice catch, didn't think to look on the scm, it IS for sale there. 1500/2.5 = 600. Supports price :^)

              Yep but there's the issue of pricing it from a series of sharked sales or scam sales, I'm looking into it.

                Credits to Kamikaze for finding the scm seller, I think the one that got hijacked is another one and this one is the one that got sharked.

              Apparently the owner got hijacked and the hijacker made a really low sale, not sure if this is it or there's one before this. Even so pricing it off of a hijack/shark is quite unusual :3 I may be wrong or misinformed as I acquired this information off of a secondary source.

                Maybe you shouldn't make bold claims off sources you don't trust. Maybe you should check yourself.

                  Added him already, waiting for his response.

                    This is his profile if you care to check yourself as well. http://steamcommunity.com/id/cheesedibbles

                      He got scammed, I think he owns another one as he doesn't appear in the history of the hat involved in this sale. Either ways this sale also appears to be a shark as well

                        A different one than the one involved here*

                    seems about right. I couldn't imagine anyone paying remotely close to this price for generic all-classes like this.

                      You'd be surprised what collector's like haha

                        yea , and then those hats keep getting dropped later on.

                        Regardless 2 close sales , the seller who got broom and cannonball was not sharked, he choose it , and not to mention how hard all class hats are getting dropped.

                          That made me laugh, saying that he wasn't sharked because he chose to trade? Everyone chooses to trade but whether or not your getting sharked or scammed is not determined solely by you choosing to trade if you are as inexperienced as the guy who sold it for the cannonball and broom was. Current owner is asking for 1200 keys. Why don't we wait a month and see how that goes? He listed it quite recently.

                            can you please stop? I know it is hugely in your benefit that this suggestion doesn't pass, but come on..... This isnt too low at all, sure the owner only had it a week, and maybe he could of gotten slightly more if he waiting a bit longer but its still a valid sale that they chose to make. Unless you have proof that guns manipulated the seller into selling for less this IS NOT A SHARK. And there is one on the scm rn for ~680, so theres no way in hell anyone would pay 1200... You havnt gotten an offer on your strange one of over 800, either, and the only reason they are even that high is because bp.tf price is 800. 500 seems like a fair PURE price someone might pay.

                              At the time of the sale the broom wasn't priced, I'm asking him what he valued the broom at to clarify what he thought the offer he received was worth

                                Last I checked, strange unusuals are priced separately from regular unusuals. The price for the strange one depends on what I sell it for unless some collector has one in a private BP or another one gets unboxed. My issue here is one got scammed and another one was purchased for a really low amount (in my opinion, I'm entitled to have this) and the sale involved a taunt that was unpriced at the time and is still unpriced.

                                  What about the sales mentioned in the previous suggestion? 800, 1180 is way more than 500.

                                    Here's proof that the unboxer got sharked: http://prnt.sc/f6wh6n

                                      hmm, thats really tricky. Im not quite sure if you can call this a shark, its really more of an inexperinced trader issue. It doesnt appear there was any manipulation by guns, more of just him thinking he could sell it for a higher price and the inexperienced trader believed him. Guns is currently selling a Holy Grail Zoomin for 650 right now, and I don't think he would list it for this much if he didn't think he could get anywhere close to 650. http://imgur.com/a/LhE0C Him thinking he might be able to get 500 out of the broom seems realistic. Keep in mind the Fountain of Delight Broom may wind up being low, as a sale of ~380 has popped up on it. Im waiting for a 3rd sale to determine the outlier, or at worst a range of 235-380 which is ~308 keys. That makes the woodsman 585. With the scm sellers popping up at 600-700 keys, I dont see how this could be worth anymore than that. Once the FoD broom's price is set this should be fine to price with this sale only, and if another sale happens, this can get a range.

                                        Inexperienced traders get sharked, I'm not sure how that can be tricky. They don't know the true value of an item so they believe whatever they're told if they really have no clue. Guns didn't provide any proof to support the 500 keys price and the fact that the broom is getting priced at 235-380 (308 keys) further supports that he inflated the value of the broom and the unboxer was unaware of that.

                                          Did you even read what I wrote? Its not a shark because there was no manipulation/malicious intent, guns just valued it too high and the inexperienced trader believed him. Just because someone is an inexperienced trader doesn't automatically make a sale unusable or a shark...

                          Gonna mention here as well in case it hasnt been made apparent before; the sales from the last suggestion were on the strange woodsman, not the nonstrange one. Apart from being half a year old, they're also invalid here as a whole because of that. This will be fine if it does not resell in ~2 weeks

                            New zoomin broom suggestion that you'll make will probably appease all the people here complaining about how low this is