Suggestion: Holy Grail Taunt: Second Rate Sorcery at 65–90 keys

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https://gyazo.com/ef5c895015d80f9c85caf451eb5210cd

Just look at those sellers. Even this price is generous.

Let it ride.

i guess if the day or 3 day old sellers for 70+80 mature it would support the lower end. neutral for now as 65 looks like the outlier sale without that support.

Outlier sale? Consider the 100 is invalid, there's ONLY two sales... and given the amount of lower sellers, 90 flat would be unreasonable. Even while they're young.

the 100 is invalid just cuz it's taunt for taunt? wasn't that just a suggestion to not use those during the event?

anyways the 2 sales ~150 with 3 other sales ~150 using taunts are still valid from http://backpack.tf/suggestion/5908fbe4e338773ddc00fa80 no?

seems really cherry-picked evidence :S I don't normally see such flaws in your suggests, but i gotta take exception to this one

Nope. Because of the ongoing inflation issue, the "don't use taunt for taunt sales" is ongoing advice.

Because of how fast taunts are dropping, older sales are being overlooked. At this point this is common practice:

http://backpack.tf/suggestion/591178c6e338771ca62d3d7f

http://backpack.tf/suggestion/591176000e2cad702553329a

http://backpack.tf/suggestion/59116907c44045318320c6ef

Forgive me if this sounds blunt (though you were equally so so I'm not sure how much I mean that). But I'm not cherry-picking, you just don't (or didn't, I hope I've helped :P) understand the minutia of pricing taunts right now.

forcing the drops with suggestion manipulation by modifying rules . doesn't change my views. still neutral.

Except I've provided evidence that that's the case? Those suggestions I linked have been accepted. I didn't modify the rules, the rules HAVE BEEN MODIFIED to reflect the current taunt economy.

EDIT: Just to prove I'm not the only one "manipulating by modifying the rules" (Read; making valid suggestions), http://backpack.tf/suggestion/59117ea9e3387745d468d14f

can you link me that? didn't see it in the http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/6033-guide-for-unusual-price-suggestions/

- You may update any unusual that is outdated by more than 1 WEEK

- No direct copy-pasting old suggestions. A hat can be updated, even if it was priced a week ago. However, your range cannot be the same and you MUST have new sales since the last suggestion was made.

- For taunts and all-class hats, start with only sales from the last month. If there are no sales in the last month, then go to sales in the last 2 months. For hats outdated by more than 1 year (and only for these hats), you may select sales up to 3 months old.

- Do not use taunts to update other taunts or hats unless they are a small part of the trade (less than 50%). These are only to be used as supportive proof in a suggestion.

From the beginning of the taunt-pricing event. As I've very definitely demonstrated by providing evidence of accepted suggestions made after the event, these rules are still in effect.

I like your approach of a conservative drop here. This clearly needs a bigger drop than what you're suggesting right now(even you sales suggest that too), though given how the market used to go around the 100-150 range a few weeks ago it wouldn't feel right to outright exclude that part of the market altogether.

We'll see how the market stabilizes from here to the next few weeks, but this should definitely be better than the current right now.