Suggestion: Sunbeams Head Prize at 570–1110 keys

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~1300 keys

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Counter ~

Well idk lets see

Sale #1

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198025657905#!/compare/1494201600/1494460800

Sold for a Gpan ~ 1125

Rounding to 1100 to make the range look neat ? Pans usually get sold at this rage so ye

Sale #2

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198025657905#!/compare/1494720000/1494892800

Roboactive Pencil Pusher (300) + Chiroptera Venenata Safe'n'Sound (70) + Duped Vintage Max's Severed Head (210)

570 ~

Mini For Duped Vintage Max's

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198033378852#!/compare/1495152000/1495238400

Sold for Duped Burning pot (120) + Duped Miami Nights Liquidator's Lid (20) + Cloud 9 Kiss King (55) + 15 pure

210 well everything is duped and outdated :| so idk

https://gyazo.com/3a6b023d5d519e3513e15ddfca7044fb ~ sellers at 150-250 range so thats 200 supports the mini price? ,-,

Item history of the 4 max's on the screenshot all are duped

https://backpack.tf/item/275353491

going with 570 - 1100 as a range so thats 835 median price

and scorching head prize is 1000 so this should be fine???

also these are the only 2 usable sales i could find during the past 3 months ~

You sure theres not cash/csgo items added?

That range lol

":/ Complain about high bp prices for duped rare vintages and move on. (Seems like a low outlier to me)"

-».•´Woifilicious`•.«-

Yeah, 570 seems like a definite outlier

i did see wolfies comment on that other suggestion yes

yes 570 seems a bit too low but cant consider the max's as 744 too so idk :|

Sale 2 seems to be seriously low, besides that range is way too ugly, wait for another sale.

yup i know the rage is very bad still il wait for a mods reply n see what they have to say about this

its just that the max's is duped :|

Well, as I have mentioned before, the max sale is going to be far too low. it is likely that high because someone was convinced that the duped max was actually worth its bp value. The sad thing is that it was the dude that paid the pan that made this terrible sale.

In all honesty, that makes me think this should remain unpriced. It just seems like one person made a pointless direct downgrade. the two sales here are too far apart to price this right now, if you ask me.

Sale in my suggestion is valid, also the guy who bought it for a Golden Pan was tricked to give his EASY SELLS, TWICE. He sold his Bonzo BoA for duped Vintage Buds + duped Burning Beak, saying "I got a great offer" and declining my Scout set for it. 2ndly he sold the Prize for Vintage Max + some other stuff (dont exactly remember the sale). He has lost a LOT of monet in the past week by doing out of this world shitty trades (he already sold both vintages for a pretty low value). This broves, that the person has a completely false idea on the values of such Vintage items and such sales are, with no doubt, outliers. My suggestion is more than fine here.

So what makes you think that the pan -> headprize sale was not a similar, rash decision of this same trader?

Kamix wanted his BoA, so he made multiple offers to the guy. The guy told me, he will consider my offer, since Kamix had told him, that he might get PE Prize. If so, my offer wouldve been declined, since he wouldve insta 1:1-d the BoA with the PE Prize, point is, he really wanted a high tier Prize. Seems like he took full advandage of the Pan he owned and bought the Beams Prize (pretty sure Beams was selling at a B/O of around 1500?)

Why are we talking about boas and PE headprizes and considered offers on not-pans and not-beams headprizes?

The point Im making: you say the dude is making irrational and bad trades and that therefore his sale is definitely an outlier, but why is his purchase, which is basicly his pan sale, not an outlier as well for the exact same reason?

"point is, he really wanted a high tier Prize."

I dont even know what to say...

You mean the dude that resold it in 5 days really wanted a headprize? ;p

Mhm. Pretty much, the Vintages are what misleaded him, not the Beams Prize.

Based on what grounds?

Is there any proof denying what i said?

Edit: Youre literally assuming out of thin air, that the Pan sale is also an outlier, when i have personally spoken to him and it was clear he thought both Vintage trades would make him a lot of profit (meanwhile Beams Prize was unpriced and he had other effects to base the rough value off of, also as i said, he wanted a high tier Prize).

Edit 2 (kinda): Overall, any further progress into this discussion is meaningless, as i have proved my point and it does seem, that waiting for a 3rd sale is necesarry anyways.

"He has lost a LOT of monet in the past week by doing out of this world shitty trades"

That was your argument why the v sale would be an outlier. The prize->pan exchange can be considered his own pan sale. Why would that not qualify as an "out of this world shitty trade" where the vintage one does?

It is not out of thin air, it is literally just looking at the situation as it is. If this person's trades are considered irrational and bad, then that applies to both trades. That is why I am asking you what your rationale is behind only calling the vintage sale stupid. As far as I can see, there is nothing else here that would say either of these values is "the real one". There's nothing else to compare to as far as I am aware. On that ground I see no reason to price this as of yet.

Cant really see why its even hard to explain to begin with. He has lost value because of the Vintage trades, those trades were the downfall of everything, cant you see that the Vintages are the obvious outlier sales? Prize is an completely different sale, noone tricked him thinking that the Prize is 1125, he himself offered his Pan and the other side simply coudnt resist the full pure.

Edit: None, my statement nor yours can be proven wrong or right, the judge will be the 3rd sale, as i said i do not oppose to waiting an even longer time here.

hmm is there any sunbeams hat more expensive than scorching ? as far as i know nope (I may be wrong here though)

and as foamy said "The sad thing is that it was the dude that paid the pan that made this terrible sale."

i did see ur suggestion and i did see the other sale link on ur suggestion the problem here is the max's which is rare the clean ones mostly with collectors and sadly duped gets sold alot and again as fomay said "because someone was convinced that the duped max was actually worth its bp value" ~ guess we will wait for 1 more sale to happen and price it based on that sale + the pan sale n ignore the sale with the max's

guess il close this soon and hope u close urs soon too and wait for 1 more sale

good day~

Absolutely no reason to close mine, until another sale happens, not closing.

but how can u call a pan 1125 instant pure? n price it at that flat value?

https://m.imgur.com/8MEOhBx

Loaf offered much much more, odd that he would lower his offer so much

Sales are discrepant here. Need a third sale to identify the outlier.