Suggestion: Knifestorm Pyromancer's Mask at 395 keys

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~500 keys

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This suggestion was accepted Sat, 17 Jun 17 23:37:16 +0000 by Vijf Kilo Boter (met voetjes).

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Knifestorm Pyromancer's Mask

Thanks,Pampick

1st Sale:

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198144322309#!/compare/1494806400/1494979200

395 mann co keys

P.S 250 keys is obious outlier,395 nice there

Final Price:395 keys

Downvote, was unsold on marketplace for a long time at a lower price. Old price is indate as well, based off the marketplace sale.

So 250-395? Sounds like a trash range, especially considering he paid full pure.

Uh, that's not how it works

It's obviously something that will remain forever with one player in the inventory, I think he's not going to resell it, he paid with the keys, and paid more than it costs, 250 at that time was obious outlier

With all due respect, you're contradicting yourself. You're saying that 250 is an obvious outlier, but then admit that the 395 was "more than it costs."

Anyway, you can just randomly say something is an outlier without sales or actual proof.

Well, it's probably logical to say that it costs more than 295? When there is a sale and for 395

The price that was set 4 weeks ago is very low, therefore, by finding evidence and enlisting the help of my friend, I created this suggestion

Why is it logical? Just becuase someone says something is logical, does not necessarily make that notion correct. You cannot rule out a sale without adequate proof (adequate proof in this circumstance would be another sale showing that 295 is low).

Obviously, the buyer will no longer sell it ..

If "250 at that time" was an "obvious outlier" it would not be priced at 250. It was unsold for a long time (check item history to see how long it took to sell)

After the price was lowered to 250, the item sold.

It was available for way less than 395 keys for a long time, pretty recently. This would make me think 395 is an outlier.

If the 250 purchase was not listed for sale anywhere, my opinion would be different. However, it was advertised at ≤300 for many months.

On rare items that sell to collectors, I do believe that there is more room for leeway, but when that item was on the market for so long at way less, it makes this seem like an outlier.

Both paid full pure. The last suggestion was off a cash sale that took forever to sell at <300 keys.

Some proofs on unsold?

Item history.

Actually, I am not against here. The sale from the last suggestion will go outdated in a few days

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That is of course if the new user is actually planning to keep it. Such measures only work when it concerns a collector; if someone knowingly paid much more than anyone else would, the resulting sale is usually an outlier. If the buyer however is a collector, then naturally there aren't going to be any other sales. As in many cases, they will be forced to make outlier purchases in order to get the hat they want, some leniency can be granted towards them.

Obviously, a person who paid almost twice as much for a thing will not sell it

Moreover, If it is only one in the game, I think the price is quite appropriate

If every suggestion was based on the proportional chance that the buyer was a "collector" then all unusual prices would be super inflated. Personally, I would suggest that this suggestion remains open for a period of time, in which, if the seller hasn't posted any listings or sold the unusual, then they could be considered a collector.

I will ask the buyer if he considers it necessary to resell the item, if so, I will close it and make a new price, if not, then I think it is obvious that I will leave this price open

Yes, just keep it open for a while ^^^

I disagree that they would have to make an outlier purchase to get the item they want (this item). It was in marketplace.tf for 4 months at 250-300 keys. There was plenty of time to buy it at way less, but nobody else bought it, until it was lowered to 250.

I would have a different opinion if it was not listed for sale for so long (or if it was unlisted).

If it was 1/1 and sold for 250, with no listings/advertised price, and then sold for much higher, after it enters a traders bp, I'd support.

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(See: phantasm beak, 155->260)

Bought from a collector at 155 (off market)

Sold to another collector at 260 (off market)

One of those is an outlier.

If it was listed for sale at 155, and took 3+ months to sell, then sold again for 260 relatively quickly, I'd say that 260 is an outlier , because anyone else could have gotten it for 155 for months, but didn't.

However, this changes since there was no advertised price, as many people who may have wanted the item, wouldn't know its for sale. Others may pay that price or more, but probably thought it wasn't for sale at all. In this situation I'd say 155 is an outlier.

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With the mancer, it was advertised for ~4 months, before selling at 250, which makes me believe 400 is an outlier. Especially since the 250 sale was semi recent.

I will leave this question open, but I believe that the buyer is a collector and is not going to resell, why not put the price that he paid if he is not going to exchange it anymore? He obviously paid more than it was worth a month ago, Before the adoption of this price, the previous owner laughed at the fact that the price is small, if you believe his words, he received offers, much more than 295 keys

The 250 sale happened 2.5 months ago and he wanted cash only via Marketplace.tf.

This update seems fine imo.

Both sales were pure (cash/keys) so it don't think it matters that he only wanted cash.

It does a bit. Not everyone wants to sell their items for cash just to buy items, and due to the Marketplace.tf tax, paying with cash is more expensive on their site than usual.

You also can't drop with unsold that only want Cash (Marketplace.tf/OpSkins) but you can drop with unsold that want keys.

This update is fine.

Yeah, I think the most conservative move would be to keep it open for a while

Definitely agree.

to make things clear im not going to sell it unless I get atleast 550+ in pure or so, so basicly im never selling

it has been over a month and the buyer hasnt listed it anywhere yet. Giving precedence to the most recent sale here.