Suggestion: Terror-Watt Defiant Spartan at 19–22 keys

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~10.5 keys

terror-watt

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This suggestion was accepted Wed, 21 Jun 17 14:39:02 +0000 by Mindacos.

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2 years old price

Sale 1: Sold for Blizzardy Storm Master's Yellow Belt (20)

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198317104913#!/compare/1495929600/1496016000

Mini Yellow Belt: 20 keys pure

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197961279983#!/compare/1494720000/1494979200

Sale 2: Sold for Vivid Plasma Birdcage (22)

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198055437141#!/compare/1496016000/1496102400

Sale 3: Sold for Terror-Watt Caribbean Conqueror (19)

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198070665281#!/compare/1491436800/1491523200

Sale 4: Untraceable

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198096014722#!/compare/1493337600/1493510400

Sale 5: Untraceable; looks like 19 keys + 7 ref at first glance but the IDs don't match

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198318584456#!/compare/1493769600/1493856000

Sale 6: Sold for capper (2) + 15 keys pure + 28 ref --> ~18 keys

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198022744420#!/compare/1494547200/1494806400

Sale 7: Bulk

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198260747931#!/compare/1496188800/1496448000

Sales at 19, 20, 22. Suggesting range from 19-22. 20 keys pure is pretty much in the middle so makes sense to include all IMO. Thoughts?

sale one, buyiers for 21.3 keys. I dont get how that has a mini of 20 keys....

sale two: right.

Sale three: should be used the other way as the sparatn was being bought not sold.

Sale four:ok

Sale five:ok

Sale six: quicksell, sold in only matter of 3 days.

That leaves us with 21.3, and 22. so around 21.5 for a 're suggestion. But idk about you, but 2 sales is never enough for a low tier hat like this.

Fair point on the mini; I don't mind using 21 keys for the Yellow Belt as mini (21.3 gets rounded down to 21). Supports the range.

ye, but still. 2 slaes is not enough for such a low tier. And just to say, someone is willing to pay 23 keys pure so it dosen't matter if this suggestion gets passed or no :PPPP

What rule says that, Emder? Take a look at the rules for unusual pricing please. Also have a look at this suggestion which got accepted with 1 sale about a week ago: https://backpack.tf/suggestion/592aa264e3387759421637d4

If a new sale occurs at 23 keys then I will of course resuggest. No worries. In the event that you sell it for 23 keys just post the compare link here.

alright, the dude just needs to sell the executioner and when he does he would buy the hat for 23 keys pure. We can wait for it or let this suggestion be closed or something.

Edit: I found it hard that you only need 2 sales for a suggestion to pass when the hat has 18 in existence ...

Well, I guess it is, 2 is bad. But I thought there was 3?...

show me the three if you said so. Saying something isn't the same as proving it with evidnce.

hey hey, don't be rude on suggestions. We can argue, but use our mouths right. And also, it;s called a mean, not an average. That's the mathematical term in case your wondering. Also, you don't use mean for prices. According to the 10 people who came to my face and told me that's not how pricing works.

And, just saying, it maybe a coincidence, but you happen to own this hat. Is that why you are trying to find mistakes in this suggestion?

Alright, so just because i have a hat that is the same as the one in the suggestion doesn't make me any lower than any person out there. It just means i take more attention to detail than others because i care more about the price than if i get points for upvoting or not.

So you DO admit you look for mistakes just to close the suggestion and so your unusual doesn't get priced lower

No, i look at faults in the suggestions. I also bring the things that are right like i said in my comment. Do you have an issue with me saying stuff about an suggestion? because last time i checked, you were allowed to say stuff that were wrong about something even if you have the item. Or are you the admin or something?

Oh, also, you asked 10 people, that came up to your home, to tell you that it is wrong? 1 minute after I posted the comment? Strange, 10 people in, telling you. Have they been on this suggestion just watching until I comment? Why are there 10 people telling you. That also means you don't know about those mini averages too because you had to ask them

You can argue about what a quicksell is on the forums (but do it nicely please)

mini for the yellow belt is low, couple of buyers above 20 keys in classies

Yep; see above Blaze. Emder found mini at 21.3. Still in the rage :)

that wasn't a mini, he was showing you that 20 is low because there is a buyer at 21.3 keys. 21.3 is still low here

Do you have a higher one?

didn't look into it but i'm sure you'll be able to find a proper mini for it

I didn't. I looked at sales of this hat and went for this one before I created the suggestion. Doesn't have really a lot of minis. I am fine if we exclude that sale due to lack of proper mini; leaving us still with a range of 19-22

clearly the sale is low so shouldn't be used as a mini.

you're saying you couldn't find 1 valid sale within all of these?

http://backpack.tf/item/3513401677

http://backpack.tf/item/1422584482

http://backpack.tf/item/1416205918

http://backpack.tf/item/1362769532

http://backpack.tf/item/1119688760

http://backpack.tf/item/1106738646

http://backpack.tf/item/990278964

http://backpack.tf/item/841026429

http://backpack.tf/item/508374909

all of which have recent sales

you can't just exclude the sale because you're lazy to find a proper mini. the sale is likely going to be above your high-end

If you have a mini that is higher than this I will gladly use it. I said this before.

it is your job as the suggester for find proper proof for your suggestion

I've seen plenty of suggestions were minis were contributed by others. I provided a mini. Turns out to be faulty. If someone can correct it I will resuggest and give credit. Simple.

of course other people can contribute to help but that doesn't mean you should rely on people to correct you. at least attempt to correct yourself.

since you're too lazy to do it: http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198072010135#!/compare/1495411200/1495497600 - 1 of the many recent sales which you claimed didn't have many mini's despite having premium access that clearly suggested otherwise

That needs a micro. I excluded minis which need micro. In other suggestions I got the feeling that those are not much welcomed.

then make a micro or find another sale?

As far as I can remember the other sales were not useable or required micros so I used those 20 keys pure. I realise 20 is too low with buyer at 21.X

I'll take a second look at these tomorrow.

I went ahead and priced the Yellow Belt: http://backpack.tf/suggestion/59358cc00e2cad7231394131 Suggested price is 22.5.

I'll keep that range of the Defiant at 19-22.

one could argue 22.5 rounds to 23 but in this case i think this should be fine considering the seller in classies is looking for 22 keys