Suggestion: Disco Beat Down Cotton Head at 60–85 keys

Price Suggestion

~61.5 keys

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You'll have to excuse my abruptness, but I made new suggestion.

Why it costs triple as much as Miamu? Okay, okay, people are willing to pay, so it's not for me to say. But over time, that picture had changed.

About low-end:

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198014055677#!/compare/1492214400/1493510400

Sold for an Insomnia Muffs (55, indate)

X = 55

Too low and countered by the order at 53. But I'm using it for support to drop.

Sold for Frosbite Rebel Rouser + 5 keys.

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198113853563#!/compare/1496880000/1496966400

https://ibb.co/e1FUDF

Rebel is outdated, being sold for 55. B\O marked as QS, but this hat was resold twice, 30 pure and 48 pure (2nd sale to R+Ubi at his QS prise list value), so it is usable I guess.

55 + 5 = 60

X = 60

Still too low?

3. Clean one unsold on SCRAP.TF at 72.

https://ibb.co/nwkZCa

http://backpack.tf/item/2564266285

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About high-end:

(All credits to Xergoyf)

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198090147535#!/compare/1494979200/1495065600

Sold for duped PE Waxy (47, see mini below)+ G.Fetti Cloud Crasher (37, open suggestion)

47 + 37 = 84

X = 84

Duped PE Waxy Mini:

No recent usable duped sales, Clean suggestion up at 48-51

https://marketplace.tf/items/753;5;u10

http://backpack.tf/item/2779966414

Duped unsold on marketplace.tf for $99, 99/2.1 = 47 keys

Taking 47 from the seller

X = 47

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198132113904#!/compare/1494806400/1494892800

Sold for an SSG Burst (64, indate) + Max (19)

64 + 19 = 83

X = 83

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198078552523#!/compare/1496102400/1496188800

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/29181786 - B/O of 120

Sold for a Misty Skull Head Warmer (100, indate) + Kaw Flamenco (~27)

The Flemenco would have to be lower than 20 for it to not cap, and buyers would pay 20.

X = 120

Calling this too high and luckely. Using to rounding up to 85.

PS 3 sellers at the moment at 103-105. So 120 is not valid anyway.

Id say your highend is good, but you should maybe check over your low end. "Rebel is outdated, being sold for 55. B\O marked as QS, but this hat was resold twice, 30 pure and 48 pure, so it is usable I guess." Here you should use a actualy sell and not a b/o? Go with 48 keys here. And you said buyers counter, buyers mostly dont pay their price anyways. So thats not really legit, why would anyone sell it for under a pure buyers price? Anyways, rest looks good

No, that two sales was really quick-sales.

What are talking about? Or may be I just dont understand you. SexySparta paying 53

http://backpack.tf/stats/Unusual/Cotton%20Head/Tradable/Craftable/62

Sexy sparta doesnt pay the prices he has listed, he just randomly lists prices of i think its 40% discount, not sure. But the point is, if someone sent him an offer of 53 keys for this he wouldnt accept

You trowing shadow on the credibility of Sparta ). Anyway, while order is active, it is usable. I asked him about, but have no responde.

Okay, you are right, but anyway we have 55 and 60 mine, so +/- 5 keys does not matter, I think.

I still think the range should be 55-85 keys :3

I think it should be worth ~50 keys without any ranges, because Miami worth ~42. But anyway, suggestion based on sales, and we have order by the Sparta. Unless someone is trying to sell the hat to him, it is usable.

oipinions doesnt matter just cuz if miami is 42,doesnt mean 50 is good enough.i would still pay higher for disco than miami

Just my opinion, nothing more. You need not concern yourself with this.

dw tho.i sold a beams noble for this hat.sale quite old tho.i then sold this hat for a cs knife+some adds

Its not usable XD But anyways, this suggestion probably should exclude both the high and low sales and be ~80 keys

Exclude 2 low sales? How about exclude 2 at ~85 then? And suggest as 120.

https://ibb.co/dJmgsk

Hmmm.

PS Sorry I haven't redo, but some sales are confusing...

should probably be suggested at around 85~ though since there are like 4 sales at that price, sales at 55 and 120 can be called outliers and that frostbite rebel mini is based off a day old seller

and i'm pretty sure scrap pays more than 60 keys for this. if not, 60 keys minimum

85 in range. Nobody forced owners to sell their hats at low-end value.

your low-end value is weak. your mini is based off a day old seller. no where near mature enough to be considered

Actually we have 2 low sales, the Insomia Muffs 1 to 1. You saw it, I know.

And Scrap selling it for 72, there is less than 85, obviously.

scrap pays atleast 60 for this therefore the muffs sale is low (that is your only valid lower sale since i've already stated your mini for the rebel is bad). it has been on scrap for only 3 days therefore way too young to be considered as well

Low end is way too low.

I agree, scrap.tf pays something like 50%

Ok, I checked mine, they're paing 45 for my Brotherhood (~50%). But I'm sure their offers based on current prices and moderators does not check proposals manually. Like "120 value, but sellers at 100, so we need to change our quick-buy price from 60 to 50". It is automatic.

Scrap.tf paid 68ish keys when I first got it (months ago) and they pay 62 now. Your low end is too low

But yes, its automatic

scrap offers 62 keys 14 refs

Thank you! Now this low end is completely countered.

scrap offers 62 keys 14 refs

how is me paying 120 even high?

its priced at 120 so i paid 127

selling a 120 key hat for 60 50% off thats clearly a qs and u add that to ur low end?

if u say 120 is an outliner then so is 55 and 60 then ~ this hat should be somewhere in 80-100 range

clearly the previous suggestion is much better

and scrap.tf offers 62 keys 14 refs for the hat so this low end is bad

close this suggestion

Downvoting

What are you all about Scrap for? ) Scrap paing NOTHING unless someone bought that hat (stock limit = 1). Scrap selling it for >72<. So your "80 at least" invalid too. Also, scrap paing a half for EVERITHING, because theyr offers based on recent bp prices. Unless price will be changed, they paying according to current.

PS sorry for my English

scrap offers more than ur low end here so it is completely countered 60 cannot be used when there is someone offering 62.5 pure

Your low end is countered by scrap.tf

Lol, all sellers at ~100. Scrap paying ~62 just because it automatically offering ~50% of CURRENT BP VALUE. Current bp value = 120. Scrap's moderators does not check actual proposals for change their QS prices (well don't)

automatic offer or manual offer ~ an offer is an offer

https://gyazo.com/24075e839f77da1acdda93e029267047

they offer 62 ur low end 60 is countered

and as i said before any sale at 50-60% of the items current price is a QS and u cant use that sale to price an item

u are a white belt and there is a lot u need to learn about unusual price suggestion

You have this hat so I understand why you cant stop to saying this again and again. I understood it the first time. Thank you for notice.

Even the my bad suggestion will be adopted, nobody forced you to selling your one at the price. You can sell it for any price and then make a new suggestion. Few my hats are turned into a pumpkin too, so I'm not interested in usual trading as is.

ofc the hat needs a drop and I really dont care about the price dropping ~ its out dated so a new price will be good. In date hats are always better and easy to sell, so what u understood here is wrong lol

my point was your low end is way too low and it is "Countered" by scrap.tf please understand that also sales at 55 and 60 are quick sells

I know exactly, but using scrap as closing argument is not correct, IMHO. It is automatic, I do not want to be repetitive. And it selling the subject of discussion for 72 keys, so if you want to use scrap in evidence, please dont forget about this fact. So your wanted range 80-100 invalid too, because scrap, and we have sales at ~85.

In short, I stand by my decision, nothing personal.

1.Sales on scrap are not used to price hats as they are considered as quick sells

(only time scrap is used to price hats are when there is an unsold hat on scrap.tf for over a month)

2.If there is a buyer ~ "bots or human" offering more than the suggested price then that suggested price it is not valid anymore as it is being counterd

3.any sales at 50-60% of the current price is considered as quick sells and cannot be used to price the hat if there are many other sales at higher range

4. http://backpack.tf/help/suggestions <-- go here and read "What does not count as evidence?"

"If an item is easily selling at a price outside of your suggested range at the current time, you should seriously reconsider if your suggestion is valid"

also check out http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/6033-guide-for-unusual-price-suggestions/

EDIT : have a nice day i do not wish to continue this convo if u cant understand what is written above ~ I just explained it in simple way

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198078552523#!/compare/1497139200/1497225600

sold for 113 now ur higher range is also countered as 2 sales above 100

which are mine 120 and 113

Congrats, but I have no idea what are you obtained for this hat... History not changed yet.

histories are bugged

http://backpack.tf/issue/593cd5f2e338776ef7321dcf

i can even provide screenshot of the trade

just close this suggestion already both ur low and high end are countered

EDIT : ~ sold with 6 keys for the Executioner

https://gyazo.com/7b61160aa0f45a077390215ccc2e7b1e

I see no reason to close, because moderators won't accept it from now, definitely. I'll check other thades (may be someone sold it too), minies and resuggest. Congrats again.

Because previous one by Xergoyf not sufficiently accurate too

many other sales happend after this suggestion was made yes

but non of them will be traceable as item histories are down and bugged ~

https://backpack.tf/suggestion/59334a8a0e2cad7c4045f58e refer to my comment here. The other suggestion is too high. This is too low

Ok. But I didn't quite understand... What range would be the best? We still have low sales here and few scrap sales (legit or not, but some people purchased it for 72 or whatever it cost on scrap). 80-85 as most. Pair of good sales for ~100... How about huge range like 70-100 (I'm just a "yellow belt" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)

I only saw the high sale at 120 and an exchange with scrap.tf for a searing exe that would be over 100, but should not be used as such. I've found a backup sale that would be around 80 as well, but would technically require another hat to be updated, and may be better suited to update that hat instead.

that leaves us with

- scrap tf sales (best left alone if we have non-scrap.tf sales)

- The iffy rouser sale thats probably better off updating the rouser (edit: though that may make the rouser high, that'd probably need more sales, or be an outlier for both)

- 55

- 83

- 84

-120

and a supporting sale that would be around 80. I'd say 83-84 would be most suited here

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198078552523#!/compare/1497139200/1497225600

sold for 113 now ur higher range is also countered as 2 sales above 100

which are mine 120 and 113 (SmokE)

And 1 sale for keys + Necro Smasher stranglifier. ~100, but that trade was gliched, im not sure that only Cotton Head was obtained for them.

Also Rebel <70 anyway, IMHO, was resold for much lower than 70 few times and being sold for 60 right now, check it.

well as I said, the exe sale (~113) is a scrap.tf sale. Link to the smasher sale?

Im sure that trade was here. https://backpack.tf/u/76561198031511569

I can't see that trade anywhere and I cant confirm the sale because I dont know where it went, so meh.

I still stand by my earlier judgment call

I know, I saw that trade but now I can't prove (and don't want honestly).

Okay. Then, what the point in range like 83-84? May be better to round it to low or high, depending on that sales that discarded but still exist.

Rounding is optional. However, the suggestion has been made by now :P

Well then close this... Or what? ʕ̢̣̣̣̣̩̩̩̩·͡˔·ོɁ̡̣̣̣̣̩̩̩̩

Yeah; will be the best call here

Idk, I still think that my suggestion is correct. Hi-end matched, and low sale at 55 and around 60-70 (rouser). Do what you need to do. (╥_╥)

You can close it yourself so that you do not lose credit or accuracy :P

okaaaaaaaaay

Or made a range like 80-85, because, as I say, we still have that sales. Few low, one high, some glitched. Maybe we should use it to rounding for good measure.

Sorry for bother you by the disput

So Im confused by all of this, but still think that my range is very close to the rigth. May be 70-90 then, Idk ¯\_(ツ)_/¯