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SALE:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/29303252
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198107223339#!/compare/1501372800/1501459200
Sold for Puzzle Baaaaargh (36)
= B/O of 30.
Given the STRANGE one unsold for 2 weeks at 31, this seems fine. Only recent usable sale.
Let it ride.
The b/o of 30 was up for less than a day, definitly shouldn't be included.
Also you missed my sale (it's probably hat the strange hellmet had no mini?)
Edit: you used it for the hellmet. Possibly better used here since the severity of this drop
Not a severe drop really, just a long time coming. The strange seller makes that abundantly clear.
The B/o should be used. It sold quickly for an unusual, sure. That doesn't negate what B/os are for. It's a statement that he would've taken 30 pure for this hat, and however quick it sold for unusuals doesn't change that. To claim it shouldn't be used is to misunderstand the purpose they serve to suggestions.
With that logic you are using a quicksell to price this. The only way you can use a Quicksell is if you have proof it isn't a Quicksell price, which in this case you don't because stranges are priced separatly.
This is a severe drop, because you are pricing it close to if not what quickbuyers would pay (25% off is 30) 30% off is 28.
If you manage to find proof that 30 is not a Quicksell price, you would need to use the hellmet sale here to lessen the drop.
This shoud be 36 flat given the evidence you provided
It's not a quicksell price. There's an unsold at 31. The fact that's it's strange is MORE damning because stranges 99% of the time are worth MORE. Highest non-strange quickbuyer is paying like 22 or something. Which is roughly 30% off 30. Done. Even by your own strange pre-defined rules this is correct.
"Quicksell price" in and of itself is a false notion - no set percentage defines whether an item is a quicksell or not.
The Hellmet sale is better used there because that is an unpriced item and requires two sales to be priced. This does not. End of discussion.
We'll see what a moderator thinks, shall we? Because the fact a black belt is coming out with such warped logic is discouraging.
First of all let's try and keep this civil, please don't try to start a flame war.
Stranges are priced separatly. Your point is invalid. Just because it looks overpriced doesn't mean you can ignore the rules.
What quickbuyers in the classifeds are irrelevent, because of limited classified slots/ effort posting listings.If everyone with pure keys that quickbought unusuals had a listed price, you'd quickly realize how 30 would seem low.Your probably getting confused on the two separate quicksells definition - the suggestion one and the trading quicksell. Suggestion is if it sold quickly. Trading is if it is a 25%+ discount for pure only. Given that you havn't unusual traded at all recently probably is why you are confused. I wasn't very clear either
As it stands, we have a unusual sale at 36 with a b/o of less than a day at 30. The b/o was there for so short we can ignore the buyout. 36 flat it is.
You can use this sale for the hellmet if you want, that would make 2 sales at 41.
Disagree with everything you just said. Waiting for a mod before this annoys me further.
Don't you "you're getting confused" me when I'm vastly more experienced with pricing than you though. That's just arrogant.
If I sounded arrogant I didnt mean too, my bad. Posted it in the discord so we can get a mods opinion.
You are both right... kinda. We usually ignore B/Os that have been up for an extremely short time. Reasoning here:
https://backpack.tf/suggestion/564a36c5dea9e957297f7842
The thing is, that B/O was up for much longer than a day:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/29290842
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/29286795
So capping here is fine.
Can you please drop your condescending attitude towards everyone else?
If you disagree with someone, even if you (think that you) are 100% right, there is no need to act like a dick, and talk like their opinion is worthless.
Yes you are doing better than in the past, but it's still not good enough. You need to improve your behaviour. Can't give you any more warnings.
I appreciate the acknowledgement that I'm improving, and apologise that it still isn't good enough. Believe me when I say that it upsets me greatly when my behaviour isn't in accordance with the rules, it isn't my intention, and I'm genuinely trying to improve further.