Looks perfectly good to me, you didnt do anything wrong, but for future reference, the buyers dont have to be successful
bp.tf rules
Please remember that common trade points are defined by completed sales - not buyers or sellers.
Teeny Tiny Cat
From now on, if you make a suggestion using just sellers/buyers and mods consider that you could have easily found sales, your suggestion may be closed without giving you time to close it yourself. This is to encourage people to check markets properly and make sure they have the most evidence possible before suggesting. If you absolutely cannot find anything, you can still suggest with sellers/buyers if the change is meaningful. I am not putting a #% on meaningful. It's context dependant and I'd like suggesters to start using some common sense and making arguments for their chosen ranges.
he found sales, and most suggestions are sales/buyers, which he did. I didn't say that he ONLY used buyers, which he didnt, but he went out of his way to make his buyer successful, which wasnt nescessary, i have made suggestions and buy orders are fine as long as you have some other proof
If you actually read it, you do need to go out of your way to find sources. If you search pretty much all sources and you don't find anything, then you can post without proof. I went out of my way to find sales which I found, but if I didn't find any sales, then I didn't need to add any.
did you read my comment before posting? because you just repeated what i said
i just noticed that you were the suggester. im smart
"he went out of his way to make his buyer successful, which wasnt nescessary"
I almost always have successful buyers. If there are no sales, I don't suggest.
successful buyers and sales are both valid proof, but a successful buyer is much harder to track.
It actually isn't. All you have to do is look in bots inventory and see if they have any of the items. If they do, then look at the history and see if it was traded recently. Then you just have to copy paste the history in and you already knew how much it was bought for because they had the buy order in classifieds.
bots trade often, it would be hard/impossible to find out if the sale happened if they got the ref for the sale and then made the sale in the same day, which would happen often considering how frequently bots trade and get rid of/get new ref
Again, I already explained this. In this trade, you can see that it was traded on October 14th and for 5 ref because there is a buy listing in classifieds. I don't understand what is confusing about that.
Im not sure you understand how bot prices work, and if youre gonna check their comparison
This is what happens, and bots do hundreds of trades per day, so the chances of this are almost guaranteed
A bot makes a buy order for something(X)
The bot sells something(Y) for ref
The bot uses the ref to buy something(X)
The bot sells (X) for ref
Trade history only shows that the bot lost (Y) and gained ref, with no signs of (X) in the history
To find it you would have to look at the next guy in the history, and that wouldnt be proving a successful buyer, it would be a sale.
It's not an inventory comparison, it's an item history. As long as you know the buy price and when it was sold, you are good.
"Im not sure you understand how often bot prices change"
Those were the first lines of my reply
Most of the trades were done in the past 1 day, and you didn't say that they change, you said "Im not sure you understand how bot prices work, and if youre gonna check their comparison" completely different.
wait shit i typed that wrong. the time of the trade doesnt matter, bot prices and backpack prices are completely independent.
Buyers successful @ 5
https://backpack.tf/item/4195325447
https://backpack.tf/item/4513028974
Sale @ 4.88
https://backpack.tf/item/5114577391
Looks perfectly good to me, you didnt do anything wrong, but for future reference, the buyers dont have to be successful
bp.tf rules
Please remember that common trade points are defined by completed sales - not buyers or sellers.
Teeny Tiny Cat
From now on, if you make a suggestion using just sellers/buyers and mods consider that you could have easily found sales, your suggestion may be closed without giving you time to close it yourself. This is to encourage people to check markets properly and make sure they have the most evidence possible before suggesting. If you absolutely cannot find anything, you can still suggest with sellers/buyers if the change is meaningful. I am not putting a #% on meaningful. It's context dependant and I'd like suggesters to start using some common sense and making arguments for their chosen ranges.
he found sales, and most suggestions are sales/buyers, which he did. I didn't say that he ONLY used buyers, which he didnt, but he went out of his way to make his buyer successful, which wasnt nescessary, i have made suggestions and buy orders are fine as long as you have some other proof
If you actually read it, you do need to go out of your way to find sources. If you search pretty much all sources and you don't find anything, then you can post without proof. I went out of my way to find sales which I found, but if I didn't find any sales, then I didn't need to add any.
did you read my comment before posting? because you just repeated what i said
i just noticed that you were the suggester. im smart
"he went out of his way to make his buyer successful, which wasnt nescessary"
I almost always have successful buyers. If there are no sales, I don't suggest.
successful buyers and sales are both valid proof, but a successful buyer is much harder to track.
It actually isn't. All you have to do is look in bots inventory and see if they have any of the items. If they do, then look at the history and see if it was traded recently. Then you just have to copy paste the history in and you already knew how much it was bought for because they had the buy order in classifieds.
bots trade often, it would be hard/impossible to find out if the sale happened if they got the ref for the sale and then made the sale in the same day, which would happen often considering how frequently bots trade and get rid of/get new ref
Again, I already explained this. In this trade, you can see that it was traded on October 14th and for 5 ref because there is a buy listing in classifieds. I don't understand what is confusing about that.
https://backpack.tf/item/4513028974
Im not sure you understand how bot prices work, and if youre gonna check their comparison
This is what happens, and bots do hundreds of trades per day, so the chances of this are almost guaranteed
A bot makes a buy order for something(X)
The bot sells something(Y) for ref
The bot uses the ref to buy something(X)
The bot sells (X) for ref
Trade history only shows that the bot lost (Y) and gained ref, with no signs of (X) in the history
To find it you would have to look at the next guy in the history, and that wouldnt be proving a successful buyer, it would be a sale.
It's not an inventory comparison, it's an item history. As long as you know the buy price and when it was sold, you are good.
"Im not sure you understand how often bot prices change"
Those were the first lines of my reply
Most of the trades were done in the past 1 day, and you didn't say that they change, you said "Im not sure you understand how bot prices work, and if youre gonna check their comparison" completely different.
wait shit i typed that wrong. the time of the trade doesnt matter, bot prices and backpack prices are completely independent.