Suggestion: Misty Skull Bonk Helm at 37–42 keys

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~530 keys

misty

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Misty Skull Bonk Helm

Sale 1: 42 keys pure

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198090520837#!/compare/1517529600/1517616000

Sale 2: 37 keys pure

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198220858440#!/compare/1518134400/1518307200

Sale 3: 37 keys pure (QS)

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198320427477#!/compare/1517702400/1517788800

Sale 4: Sold together with 1 key pure for Stormy Storm Executioner + Burly Beast (3.5); low outlier

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198220858440#!/compare/1517788800/1517875200

Sale 5: Bulk for Blizzardy Viewfinder

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198001174802#!/compare/1516320000/1516406400

Sale 6: Bulk

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198043225916#!/compare/1517097600/1517184000

Sales at 37, 37,42. Buyers at 36. Unsold at 50 for 6 days https://imgur.com/a/tGCIo

Suggesting range from 37 to 42.

Sale 1: Literally sold in a day, obvious quicksell.

Sale 2: Was listed for 50 by the seller, seller contact me WHILE it was still listed at 50 and asked if I would quickbuy at 37, which I did. EZ quicksell, and I'm sure I can get the seller to confirm this too.

On another note, I'm not the only one who's noticed that you are trying to pricedown every hat I own, simply because I call you out for being a shark (Which you are btw). If you have problems with me calling you out, that's too bad.

You're not really helping your horrid reputation by targeting me with suggestions.

For anybody else who's keeping track of all the suggestions/attempts this guy has made to try to lower my hats here you go:

Misty Skull bonk helm: http://prntscr.com/ig74ir

Time Warp Teutonic Toque: http://prntscr.com/ig74xf

Death At Dusk Danger: http://prntscr.com/ig75bs

Time Warp Flipped Trilby (Priced at 61.5, the trilby ended up being priced by me because this argument was invalid): http://prntscr.com/ig760i

Sale one did not sell within a day. Not sure what you are up to. https://backpack.tf/item/1217173863

There is no proof that sale 2 is a quicksale. If he can confirm it then I'll resuggest at 42 flat.

how do you know he listed as soon as he got it?

lol, i love the blatant ignoring of the manipulation accusation. Unlike some of the other things you've done, I'm positive that this sort of thing definitely does fall under manipulation which actually is against the rules. But feel free to either report every +trust I have regardless of how valid they are (the only one you got removed the first time you did this i got put back in 10 minutes so maybe don't bother), report every comment on this price suggestion (like here https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5a7e9235cf6c750e6e465493 , most of those didn't even break site rules but sure lol), or try and price down everything that I own too (I don't sell anything, so go ahead and try)

Look at my price suggestions and how few of them involve his hats. If he happens to buy outdated hats then they can be repriced. Not against any rules. No manipulation. All suggestions are reviewed by mods and based on sales. https://backpack.tf/vote?creator=76561198069559160&state=0,1,2

Yeah, if you do it correctly. Of the 4 hats bull mentioned, only one seems to be a suggestion that wasn't rushed and/or based on flawed logic or just flat out wrong. The Danger looks wrong, this is wrong, and the trilby was proven wrong. The fact that you do other suggestions (a lot of which aren't accurate either looking at what you linked me) doesn't excuse the fact that you seem to be targeting people's inventories that don't like or agree with you which demonstrates incredibly poor suggester's etiquette and as far as I'm aware is against the rules considering that a large majority of the suggestions in question (3 out of 4) are "objectively wrong" https://gyazo.com/8cead58eb833e3db8b63e86059e951e9 . But just let me know when you can't defend your actions anymore and start doing one or more of the three things that you do every time you create drama on this site

The suggestions are not objectively wrong. Like I said, if 37 was a quicksale and there is proof for it then I am more than happy to resuggest at 42.

Ignoring the fact that you ignored the other objectively wrong suggestions, especially the trilby (which was actually proven objectively wrong already), he says he has proof which he will be happy to ascertain. If you have to resuggest a price because your price is wrong, doesn't that, by the definition of "objectively wrong", make this suggestion objectively wrong?

No, it doesn't. Right now 37 is not a clear quicksell. No proof indicates that it is. If the seller says he quicksold it or if other proof is provided then the situations will be reevaluated and in that case then 37 becomes a non-useable sale.

I'm not going to argue with you over this. You can continue trying to derail this suggestion. It won't change anything.

Ok well, if you can't see that a non-useable price would make the suggestion wrong, then I don't know what to tell you. Feel free to add me to discuss the other suggestions that you still haven't even responded about if you feel this is derailing your suggestion, but the fact of the matter is, once bull gets proof that 37 is a quicksell you're going to need to resuggest. Bottom line.

Was listed on Outpost at 1/29/18 and sold around the 2nd or 3rd of February.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/29537537

Chances are he had it listed at 55 for a couple days then dropped down to 42 on backpack.tf ONLY or went on a trade server and sold it within a day.

With regards to sale 2, I have no doubt that sale at 37 pure was a quicksell at all. There was lots of talk about quickbuying that hat for around multiple discord servers that I'm in that I do remember, not to mention the fact it already quicksold for 37 pure one time.

This, to me, looks objectively low.

So because the buyout of sale 1 was 55 this ends up as a quicksale? I don't agree with that. He made his ad on the 29th and sold on the 4th. That's five days. Not that quick.

Regarding sale 2 thanks for pointing out that he advertised it as quicksale on discord. Sale 2 is then a quicksale leaving us with a sale at 42.

That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying it was listed at 55 on outpost (probably on bp as well), but then either dropped on backpack or just sold for 42 anyways and the old price remained the same on the outpost trade, like what bull said with sale 2.

And yeah, no problem with helping out on sale 2.

https://i.imgur.com/8ajaRTb.png

Compare link is wrong. He sold it for 50 keys and not for 42. Something I could not have known.