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Sale 1:

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198054862332#!/compare/1521072000/1521158400

Spectral Beams BoA


Mini For Spectral Beams BoA:

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198115572261#!/compare/1521158400/1521244800


Sold for a Clean Beams BoA (550) + C9 Robo Toque (10) + OF Raincatcher [10] + 10 Pure + 10 Keys in sweets ~600


Sale 2:

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198041852307#!/compare/1520035200/1520294400


Bulk and all outdated stuff

    Had a b/o of 560 I believe

https://imgur.com/a/SruJN - Seller had it listed @ 560 before the suggestion for 3 days.

Sale 2:

Beams Executioner [490] + 45 Pure + Flies Anger [30] + Festivized Cosmic Calamity Stickybomb Launcher [BS/Hot] + Festivized Star Crossed Sniper Rifle [FT/Cool]

Should cap at 600

    Sunbeams Exec dropped now so the sale is not gonna cap anymore. Here is the compare btw: https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197960560834#!/compare/1521504000/1521590400

      At the time of the sale though the mini for the executioner was valid at that point of sale...would it make sense to take the Present Value of a hat that dropped now, to a past sale?

      and im sorry but ive seen lemons suggestions, and they seem really misrepresentative of the market value of hats...he has blindly ignored sales of the mini suggestions based on marketplace sales which cant even be sure if they are quicksells or not.

      Which brings the biggest problem..what is a quicksell...There arent enough people in this market to buy hats in a second. not high tiers. not anymore...so how long do we need to have a hat up to be not considered an outlier?

      coz i know there was no beams executioner for that low on mp.tf when i sold the hat...which was over a month ago.

    Eh Im generally not convinced here.


    Another sale on that spectral boa here that's going to be a lot lower than the mini used here:

    https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198031126990#!/compare/1520294400/1520380800

    duped gfetti noh + demon capper + a few keys


    Capper sold here for 85

    https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198031126990#!/compare/1520467200/1520640000


    Cant find a proper mini on the noh but that has always been much lower than its clean counterpart. Not exactly sure what went down here:

    https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198057378740#!/compare/1522713600/1523059200

    https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198418740133#!/compare/1522972800/1523232000

    https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198066434918#!/compare/1522886400/1522972800

    My guess is that it sold for either the brain that then resold for the 3 hats or that it sold for the brain first and then for the 3 hats. Seems like all of them have moved through a private backpack since histories are a bit iffy.


    The boa itself has sellers around 350 atm at least 20 days and potentially as long as a month and a half.


    Besides the boa, the sale that is being ignored here for being bulk is not that bulky, and would be a lot lower too. All things considered this is definitely going to be too high


      That Beams BoA is unfortunate...passed down from a scammer for 200 pure then 225 and so on..and now with satan at 350...

      I don't think it would be right to use that BoA in light of the way that hat has come to be traded.


      I really think the executioner sale should be usable, because at the point of trade for the Vivid Pullover that mini held....recent changes affecting the executioner today wouldn't change the matter that up to that point the Executioner was closer to 500 rather than the 400.


      All this Being Said, What do you think should be done here? shall i close till something else comes up?

        If you can find appropriate minis on the weapons, then that sale could be used. If you can find out what happened to the noh in the 3 links I provided, then that sale could be used as the new boa mini. It will be higher than that marketplace seller I presume, somewhat on par with the sale used here that indicates the spell would actually add value in this specific case. With all that, this could get a range.

      I sold the Sticky for a G.Fetti Cotton [50]

      I cant say i have a mini for the Sniper sadly. but was valued at around 40~ to make the who trade ~650 keys.


      Should we resuggest using 550-600? the Beams BoA was in date 550 then. [We could skip trying to find the value add from the spectral paint]

        The Noh is a tricky space...i mean its hella overpriced....but somehow for hats it sells..even as the dupe.

        Although getting pure on that...i wouldn't say its impossible...but its a mountain.

          Gfetti cot is probably high at 50 (has sellers at 40) so that'd need an update too. Even with the sniper at 40 and the 50 on the cotton (which is too high), the sale total will be ~560 (and will be lower for sure).


          I'm not a fan of taking the boa at its old value when it is evident that it's too high at current. The sales from the last suggestion are from october and the sale happened in march. The new BoA sales/sellers are far closer to the sale itself than the last suggestion

            Shall I close this for now? till a more usable trade comes around?

              At this point that may be best. Most of the sales seem to support values slightly lower than current. If you want to look into the minis, feel free to.

                I tried. the ditch just wouldn't end. it was one mini leading to another and by the end of it i couldnt make sense of aything T_T

                Closing