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Demonflame Cold Killer
Submitted by Weskin It
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Unusual Cold Killer Demonflame
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Resuggesting from:

https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5b79dfe244325a1d9055c8f8


Sale 1: https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198401033058#!/compare/1531440000/1531526400

(In bulk)


Sale 2: https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198262354524#!/compare/1534032000/1534550400


(Sold for sunbeams spook specs.)


Edit: (credit to foamy the mad scientist)


Actually, that sale labeled as bulk isnt that bulky. It sold with a 20 key taunt and ~1 in sweets for a GBH warpig (215); the sale total will be 194

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198328624791#!/compare/1531353600/1531526400


Other clean sale here at 115:

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198258264645#!/compare/1530489600/1530576000


Your hat is duped; comparing dupes to cleans here with other duped sales:

Duped phos belt + duped timewarp anger (~160 at bp prices, they'd need mini-suggestions though)

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198192602363#!/compare/1530316800/1530403200


Bulk for a bonzo danger

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198004386287#!/compare/1529884800/1529971200


Vivid combover ~100 + energy orb medgun ~40 + TaW cold killer (outdated at 38, sellers at 34) + minor sweets

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198030343929#!/compare/1529884800/1529971200

Probably around 170


Sold with beams marauder for vivid BoA

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198262354524#!/compare/1531872000/1531958400

Should be used on the BoA - not really usable here.


As for the specs:

Sold for 500$: (~255 keys)

https://marketplace.tf/items/30390;5;u17


That's the only sale on it aside from the one for the cold killer, and could be used to reprice the specs. I've rounded the specs value and took an estimated key value of 1.95$ which is a relatively common average.


Sales on the cold killer we have are now:

115

~160 (D)

~170 (D)

~194

~255 (D)

Duped sales are marked with (D).


255 will probably end up an outlier here; other duped sales support 193 much more than 115, so that'd end up an outlier as well. With that, I'd make this 194 flat. (can be rounded to 195)

    Your hat is duped. Clean one was on the market recetly, some sales are indate actually

      I’m a little uninformed about what’s the downsides of duped items, can you enlighten me kindly?

        If the hat you are pricing is duped, you cannot lower the value of its clean version based on its sale. Sales of duped hats can be used as supporting evidence or as proof to raise the value on an unusual or to set a price on an unpriced unusual if there are no clean sales.

        EXCEPTIONS - A hat may be lowered in priced using duped sales if

        - The last price suggestion that induced a raise is based of a duped sale + there is no evidence that a clean one sells for more

        - Both these criteria are met:

        * There are NO sales of the clean version in the last year

        * The owner of the clean versions can not be active. For clarity, this means:

        • No premium on either trading site and no major trades on either trading site for the past 6 months and that they are Inactive/Offline on steam and have very low hours in tf2 (recently)

        • That they are Trade banned/unable to trade.


        ~ https://forums.backpack.tf/topic/6033-rules-for-unusual-price-suggestions/

You need a mini on the spook specs. It's outdated at 295. Need sales, not what a person says it is

    Why did you resuggest with the exact same price and ignored everything I've said in the last suggestion? :P

      Actually, that sale labeled as bulk isnt that bulky. It sold with a 20 key taunt and ~1 in sweets for a GBH warpig (215); the sale total will be 194

      https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198328624791#!/compare/1531353600/1531526400


      Other clean sale here at 115:

      https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198258264645#!/compare/1530489600/1530576000


      Your hat is duped; comparing dupes to cleans here with other duped sales:

      Duped phos belt + duped timewarp anger (~160 at bp prices, they'd need mini-suggestions though)

      https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198192602363#!/compare/1530316800/1530403200


      Bulk for a bonzo danger

      https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198004386287#!/compare/1529884800/1529971200


      Vivid combover ~100 + energy orb medgun ~40 + TaW cold killer (outdated at 38, sellers at 34) + minor sweets

      https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198030343929#!/compare/1529884800/1529971200

      Probably around 170


      Sold with beams marauder for vivid BoA

      https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198262354524#!/compare/1531872000/1531958400

      Should be used on the BoA - not really usable here.


      As for the specs:

      Sold for 500$: (~255 keys)

      https://marketplace.tf/items/30390;5;u17


      That's the only sale on it aside from the one for the cold killer, and could be used to reprice the specs. I've rounded the specs value and took an estimated key value of 1.95$ which is a relatively common average.


      Sales on the cold killer we have are now:

      115

      ~160 (D)

      ~170 (D)

      ~194

      ~255 (D)

      Duped sales are marked with (D).


      255 will probably end up an outlier here; other duped sales support 193 much more than 115, so that'd end up an outlier as well. With that, I'd make this 194 flat. (can be rounded to 195)

        So 194? I’ll have to resuggest that, or-?

          Yeah, that will work. You can copy-paste the above and add it to your suggestion. If you do, please edit the spacing (copypasting will add a space between every line, obscuring the clarity of the suggestion; if you can remove those and only space between different sales that'd be great).