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Unusual Cotton Head Sunbeams
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https://marketplace.tf/items/30175;5;u17

11/36 $ 250 / 1.73 = 144.5 > 145


https://backpack.tf/item/5868814869


Sale 1: Untrace

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198406773866#!/compare/1543190400/1543363200 https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198262207354#!/compare/1543190400/1543276800


Sale 2: Gift / transfer

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198406773866#!/compare/1543795200/1543968000 https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198072367315#!/compare/1542412800/1543881600


Sale 3: Incomplete

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198072367315#!/compare/1544227200/1544313600 https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197961452664#!/compare/1544313600/1544400000


Sale 4: Duped Beams Soldered + ST Fest ProK Aus Sniper w/ exo (no valid mini taking listing of 45) | No mini on the soldered, exclude.

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198212715087#!/compare/1544313600/1544400000 https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197961452664#!/compare/1544400000/1544486400


Sale 5: Burning Eyewear (indate 110) + Cool SpecK Aqua RL MW (no valid mini, taking outdated @ 42) + Hot Fest Bloom Sniper WW (85) + 2k and 3k in trash adds | 242k (high and out of range, nothing supporting

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198043826027#!/compare/1544400000/1544486400 https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198212715087#!/compare/1544400000/1544486400

> Rifle sold for 85

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198045883624#!/compare/1542931200/1543017600


Sale 6: Bonzo Drill (better there, MP sale there countered by unsold here and this sale here would be <50k)

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198048058710#!/compare/1540425600/1540512000

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198026744290#!/compare/1540425600/1540512000


Sale 7: Went with a gfetti hunter (indate 34) + 61k for a bonzo danger ( 255) | 160k

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198049847929#!/compare/1540252800/1540684800 https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198026744290#!/compare/1540598400/1540684800

> Danger 255 by mod comment here

https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5bdd8269cf6c757e664f49e1


Sale 8: Incomplete

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198082684654#!/compare/1539302400/1539388800 https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198312583107#!/compare/1539302400/1539388800


Sale 9: No idea

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198312583107#!/compare/1539907200/1539993600 https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198050062763#!/compare/1539907200/1540252800


Sale 10: Went w/ a PE BoA for a RoF Heph(45) + Burning Bonk (588) | Insanely high outlier, even taking the boa @ unsold (2mo 250) itd be 383 countered by 18d 300k unsold

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198050062763#!/compare/1541894400/1541980800 https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197988768189#!/compare/1541808000/1541894400

> Bonk sold for burning boa (indate 588)

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198139171368#!/compare/1541462400/1541635200 https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198156052965#!/compare/1541548800/1541635200

> Heph 11/12 $ 79 .99 / 1.77= 45.2>45k

https://marketplace.tf/items/31000;5;u117

> Cotton unsold

https://prnt.sc/lvjtw5 https://backpack.tf/item/5868814869


Sale 11: Bulkish for a DBD Polar

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198070474543#!/compare/1541808000/1541980800 https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197988768189#!/compare/1541894400/1541980800


Sale 12: Bulked with an arcana KE for… nothing? Excluding

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198070474543#!/compare/1543190400/1543363200 https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198056793444#!/compare/1543190400/1543363200


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145-160

Sale 1: Untrace , Sale 2: Gift / transfer , Sale 3: Incomplete, Sale 8: Incomplete, Sale 9: No idea, Sale 11: Bulkish for a DBD Polar, Sale 12: Bulked with an arcana KE for… nothing?


lol what do you know about? you know my trade and you make it out of range... i just lol'd. thanks for making my day. please make a proper suggestion with solid sales and prices. all those unsure evidences you put there not helping.

    Insulting others intelligence isn't exactly helpful either, all i see is you whining about compare links not being perfect. I challenge you to do better than serp has. You point out the aspect that not all sales are traceable, yet you make 0 attempt to find further info to correct the natural flaws in the compare link and suggestion system. The fact of the matter is, sales are sales, and this hat is overpriced, nearly every data point (sales, sellers etc) shows that this hat isn't what it used to be and it is deserving of this drop. If you have further information such as other sales/offers you receive which help prove that the suggested price is low, please, feel free to post it, im sure serp would be delighted to have further information on this as it would help give this as accurate of a price as it's gonna get, but if you just came here to shit on the work serp put in because it drops your hat, i politely but firmly ask you to go elsewhere :^)

      thanks for your comment torb but i am not whinning about anything here. if the hat should drop it will drop. there is nothing i can do about it. but it should be more properly, not like this. he added 12 evidences and7 of them are he is unsure of. and he is excluding the other 5 solid sales mostly. even my sale is out of range as he mentinoned. he should do a better job. making suggestion is not my thing and i never did it even once. but i know how it works. which is not like this suggesiton.


      have a nice day and thanks again for your comment.

        All evidence needs to be included in a suggestion. Even if the sale is untraceable, incomplete, or bulked.

        To not show all sales is to imply you aren't good at your job, or you are purposefully leaving them out to manipulate the outcome.


        Excluding sales is done based on looking at the facts, and the information provided.


        But I guess you already know this Mr. "making suggestion is not my thing and i never did it even once. but i know how it works"

        It's why you have a 28% vote accuracy, right? You know how it works?

        the fact that he exclude other sales and he went with the easiest ones, which shows his lazyness. he should find more minis instead of using unconfirmable, untraceable, unsure, incomplete, bulkish and no idea sales.

          Do you not know the meaning of "untraceable" or are you just willfully ignorant. If you think theres something else to be done, be my guest and prove me wrong by countering proof that any of the sales are not bulk, or untrace. But i doubt you will since you said yourself you dont make suggestions. Face it , the extent of your "knowledge" of suggestions is running your mouth at something you know fuckall about.

      I noticed cotton heads are getting there prices d u m p e d a lot and recently what's going on with the hat? is it losing interest? or is it becoming common that its price needs to be managed? also, it usually is high tiers like sunbeams is there a reason this is happening?

        Trash hat, trash effect, this was just a perfect storm of the worst 1st gen effect (maybe 2nd worst by comparison to something like burning or scorching) and an equally bad hat. Only was hyped up because of people circlejerking it higher, it was always bad just glad people are finally realizing it. Allclass by and large are awful (exceptions to a few good ones like the exe, splitter and prehistoric) both by looks and saleability, sadly i cant drop this lower. One day maybe.

          Well i can't really tell what your name says but it that's besides the point i want to say that judging by your font and your profile pic your definitely the type who is your typical edge lord and that's understandable now i only stated that to let you see how i see you and your look on this. now i disagree with you because firstly people have different tastes and that's what desides what goes up and down and this vote looks like a polar bear in a forest a lot of people who like this hat will likely choose to keep its price the same i mean the hat in general is already low no need to go and push it lower .secondly i think sunbeams really put the god in god tier effects it makes you look like a god i assume you say that its trash because your a light bulb to snipers which is true but it probably matters more if your a medic but it also adds a neat challenge to see if the snipers good now lastly as i mentioned before at the end of the day the reason people still like the price its at and why these votes get so much hate is because your tastes are conflicting with others and your evidents is kinda well uhh mixed i can't tell if its a suggestion for another hat or something but if it was clearer I'm sure it would help you out and for future reference good luck

            no idea what you're on about with the challenge thing, i dont even play the game, the majority of people who arent broke don't even play the game because its a waste of time, its profitable and thats the extent of the interest in it. The hat and effect are trash because they don't sell and look like dogshit, thats it, refusal to accept that is denial of fact and nothing less.


            > i cant tell if its a suggestion for another hat

            maybe learn to read before spouting shit ya ;)

              I see what you mean by people only having the game for profit so i understand you have no clue what i meant by the sniper bit ill be more blunt snipers tend to prioritize medics over other classes becauce of their value to there team and if they have sunbeams they are a bigger target then they were with out the effect ,and i may have gone on a rant there and my vote accuracy is 64 something so i guess having the majority of players mindset isnt going to aid me and i read up what you mentioned about the bonzo all gnawing in stead of adding the suggestion couldent you have just took the piece of evidence that was used instead? I'm sure it would make it way more clearer to people going through this also to maybe clarify what i said about the players of the game perhaps the hat in question isnt favourable any more and your trying to lower its price to hopefully attract more people to buy it because its price is lower and then see the hat as something easy to buy and sell and thus make it "profitable" right? Also no need to get all defence im not trying to blaze you here bud :D im just trying to understand what going on so one day i can begin to start votes

                Also what makes the exe , pullover and splitter so musch better than other hats to me all those hats look like they had no effort put into there design

                  Because they actually did have effort put into their design, at least more effort than the 20+ gibus / fedora / bowler reskins (galv gibus, modest, modest scrap, towering and its 6 reskins, KE, tipped, cotton, federal, wrapped, dapper etc..).

                    Really? Well i think that the splitter is just a plastic butcher knife the pullover is a reskin of the brother hood of arms and the executioner looks kinda like an all class dread hiding hood i like the cotton because it has a theme and allows people to combo it with other hats and miscs to make cool loadouts i think it looks amazing with the dead of night the hats you mentioned literally stack and that's all they don't look like something that has effort and yes it does have a f e w Reskins but it fits in the games time period and setting this also applies to the other hats you mentioned probably not all of them but some i think the hats overall design should also really play a role in its pricing so it has a better reason to be given the price suggested that's my take

                      Also i noticed a slight flaw in my reasoning yes most hats do stack even mine in question but i prefer it because it looks just primary to any set not secondary like the ones you mentioned

                        Either way, regardless of what a hat looks like hats are priced off sales and nothing more. Sales validate this range, nothing more to be said honestly, regardless of how much someone may disagree; theres no way to reverse the sale.

                          U n l e s s y o u r t h a n o s but true you can't reverse a sale unless you counter it with ones that go better in your favour i do wish that the price stopes dropping so rapidly so it gives those who own one time to sell it at a reasonable price or for me to still se the worth in it other than its looks just wish there weren't 14 of these out there

                            145-160 is a reasonable price, that's the point

                              damn its really been like a whole month and im still surprised it up but considering the price of keys and previous prices of this hat

                              i dont think its too bad just a little drastic of a change

                                If you want some 'drastic changes', here

                                https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5c379a1d44325a71555b30b3

                                https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5c338b7644325a0eb5169d50

                                https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5c33831244325a08cf68cf5e

                                https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5c2e9e8344325a1e123a0675


                                Not sure what you mean by price of keys here but


                                Changes are drastic occasionally. Serp isn't making this to target you or other owners of this, he's making it to better reflect the price of the hat itself, and not 455, which, by judging current sales, is no longer accurate.

                                  the hoodie for pyro and the cone isn't so bad now that I can see the majority point of view but god d a m n the case maker and the exclusive are going down I mean the exclusive I guess its not bad but the case maker F and by what i meant by the keys the fact that they inflated so much might be a cause as to why some hats like mine may be getting this but its more likely that the sales no longer reflect desire for the hat

                                    although i find maybe a more reasonable price to be 200 - 150 because of the sales for 300 + and some for 290 or below but hey i just assuming i should find more evidence and create a suggestion of my own but thank you for showing those examples because it really be like that sometimes

              i dont think people are looking interest in the hat, i think its because of the all class crate which has made god tier all class hats fall in price severely ever since it was added.

                Thats pretty true

                At the time this was suggested, I was not convinced that this was appropriate given the amount of higher sales, but I guess there's no denying the current market. Several sellers around the current range, as well as a new sale. Could be that this has become a self-fulfilling prophecy, though in this case a drop was imminent already.


                Based on recent market development Im going to accept this since it's currently clearly better than its old price.