Suggestion: Knifestorm Napoleon Complex at 240 keys

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~143 keys

knife

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Beginner suggestion, please let me know if I did anything wrong. Re-suggested due to the strange version can't be priced so I'm doing the normal form? If not I'll just close and re-suggest.

1st sale:

(Bulk with a Cloudy Moon Phantom)

[Unusable bulk]

Proof: https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198010760019#!/compare/1553212800/1553299200

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2nd sale:

$430 USD through paypal. We agreed at 1.79 per key. = 1.79 x 240 = $430 (Rounding)

Proof of sale (Paypal): https://gyazo.com/8771e542d7fd1960f8ad0d0e1adbe7fc

Proof of price we accepted for keys: https://gyazo.com/632571a654765a46cd0ca6dbe145ce22

Thanks folks.

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:3FXFt2JRsvkJ:https://backpack.tf/stats/Unusual/Napoleon%2520Complex/Tradable/Craftable/43+&cd=1&hl=fr&ct=clnk&gl=fr

B/O was 200

His B/O was 300 just a couple of days ago. I'll try to see if I can find any link to show this. This is from my phone: https://gyazo.com/3f3d3da9e2b5426d19c238c175d5ef07 (I had several tabs open on chrome atm on my phone)

When I click that link I do not see any listings - or am I missing something?

If it was listed at 200 I would say it should be capped at that.

That link is showing that when I saw his B/O at the time, that was 300 and not 200 originally. Also, if it would be capped at 200 and I paid 240 in mix with paypal, how would that make sense?

The listing you're looking at is "Sell Orders". Apothic was showing the 200 B/O that I never saw, because I saw the 300 later on. That's all that link is showing.

What I mean is:

https://imgur.com/a/Zc0RFPy

This is what I see - I do not see the listing.

So to explain, before I bought this hat I was on my phone and looking at what he wanted for it and I had left the tab open on my phone. So I went later that morning and I bought the hat. When I was making this suggestion, the only cache I found was that 200 B/O but I remember searching the hat on my phone(which I explained earlier before I was about to buy it) and saw the B/O was 300.

Because for some reason I couldn't get ahold of the 200 one like Apothic did but I did remember seeing that 300 B/O on my phone later that night before I bought it.

None of that is the issue here. If it was for sale at 200, then it should not be valued over 200 even if it was raised right before it sold.

As said - my issue is that I do not see the 200. The cache linked shows nothing. I need the evidence that it was listed at 200.

I don't know what to tell you then. That link showed the hat listed for 200 originally, I guess something happened? Then if I paid 240 for it and the B/O was 200 then what's the point of pricing this then? I paid 240 fair and square? I don't have any link showing any of the b/o's. I'm not that very skilled at getting those links. Sorry.

I never saw the 200 Key B/O. I just saw the 300 B/O and we got to 240 keys. That's all I can really say. If you really want to close this suggestion, by all means do so, but if it's going to be priced at 200 when I paid 240 then I wouldn't want anyone pricing this hat then.

Without any evidence of 200, I'm okay with ignoring. My bigger issue is that we have two sales that are vastly discrepant. The first sale is way lower. How do we know that 240 isn't an outlier? If there is proof of these offers 200+, I'm willing to accept as is.

The first sale was not usable though? So even if he had a B/O of 200 and yes while if he got offers of 200+, He told me what he was offered but I don't remember what they were. He only said "I had offers of 200+" I threw out an offer 400 dollars and we got to 430 and bam; I bought the hat.

He's offline for a couple of days but I'll ask him what hes been offered and some proof of these offers. Sorry to disappoint. I just look at it as I bought the hat for 240 keys and that's it. The first sale was a clash of 2 other higher tier hats.

Why is it unusable? It's more than 50% of the trade. The phantom is valued less than this according to your suggestion.

I don't do very many suggestions so I've been confused while doing this suggestion in general. I was trying to calculate that sale because you have the cloudy phantom and the napo. So thats like 320 pure but he added 50 keys and the rl which is 230. I remember him valuing the hazmatten at 300+. I just got mind fucked or maybe this whole suggestion is messed up.

I'm just gonna close this suggestion and someone else can suggest this.

User changed B/O upon getting offers. Should be 200 imo

Honestly, that makes me more okay with 240. If you list a hat at 200 and instantly get offers 200+ in unusuals, you're probably underselling. I would raise my b/o too.