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90k (11 additional on buyers side didnt come from seller)
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198031524068#!/compare/1553644800/1553731200
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198095862827#!/compare/1553644800/1553731200
Are you actually trying to reprice every hat I quickbuy ? That is beginning to be annoying. Every time what happens is : you suggest the quicksell price, we wait one month because no one wants to buy at the real price because of your suggestion, and the suggestion gets accepted without any additional sale just because of the one month « rule »
No proof of this being a quicksell price. At the time of you buying this, there were two buyers at 64 and 65 as there are now.
Buyers don’t reflect quicksell price. The seller got rid of it in less than an hour
The thing I find crazy is that there was no sale for like 2 years. One gets unboxed, and you don’t even wait a week to put up a suggestion. What you should do is wait for a few sales to come up OR a sale where the buyer isn’t going to sell soon. Here we have another example of a suggestion that will influence the next sales, whereas it should be the sales who determine the suggestion
The Seller sold it as soon as it became Tradable.
Maybe, doesnt really make it a qs though. Just bc something is untradable doesnt mean he's incapable of trying to sell it.
If the seller sold it as soon as it become tradable, it's a quicksale. No if's and's or but's
Thanks for the opinion but it doesnt change anything. my point stands, something being untradable doesnt mean its a qs. he had 7 days to offer it; thats far from quick
No, you're wrong. Plain and simple. Even if it's 7 days, it's still a quicksell. Close this
Furthermore, you have no evidence to say that it took seven days to sell. All you're saying is that it's not a quicksell because the unusual was untradable for seven days and he couldn't sell it for those seven days. You CANT sell an unusual if it's untradable. I really don't understand what your argument is
He had 7 days to try and sell it (make a deal, trade when its tradable) nothing quick about that. its not like he had it for 10 minutes and took the offer he got 5 minutes after getting it. You dont have to understand; unless you have new information to share, your opinion has no bearing.
And no, im not closing it. Unless a mod deems the drop is too harsh or if the owner sells.
I don't think you understand what happened. He did not have 7 days to try and sell it after it became tradable. He literally sold it THE DAY it became tradable. So he DID NOT have 7 days to sell it
I understand fully what happened, you're just grasping at this point.
He had 7 days to try and sell it while it was untradable, i never said he had 7 days after it was tradable. Something being untradable does not mean you're incapable of someone adding you to offer on it or you verbally offering it to someone and then simply trading when it becomes tradable.
What proof do you have that he was trying to sell it right after he unboxed it and nobody responded?
I'm really confused here. The definition of a quicksell is selling an unusual for pure in a short amount of time after it is tradable and in your inventory. That's exactly what happened in this sale. If an unusual sells for half of it's value in pure hours after becoming tradable it is automatically a quicksell. This is probably the most clear-cut example you can have of a quicksell
Lol nice try, nowhere in the guide does it say "a short time after it is tradable"
from the guide:
"Time is only one factor used to determine a quicksell. If a hat sells within 1-2 days for its b/o in pure, one should be suspicious. However, it could just be a lucky sale as well."
https://forums.backpack.tf/topic/6033-rules-for-unusual-price-suggestions/
7 days =/= 1-2 days.
"half its value" what is its value if theres only one sale and the existing price is 2 years outdated?
The value = the item's backpack.tf value. Since we're on backpack.tf we're assuming backpack.tf prices. You don't count the amount of time a hat has been untradable. You only count the amount of time AFTER it became tradable. Why? Because you can't trade an unusual when it is untradable. I feel like this might be the point you are missing.
What proof do you have that he wasnt? I never said he was or that he was and no one responded, I said he had the time to do so, whether he did or didnt i couldnt care less about; the fact remains that this wasnt a qs.
It sold in less than a day. It's a quicksell. What don't you get?
he had it for 7 days, he didnt sell it in "less than a day". im not arguing this further, you know you're wrong and repeating yourself doesnt make you right.
I'm just trying to help you understand man
He had it for 7 days, but he couldn't trade it for those seven days because the unusual was UNTRADABLE. Your point is completely invalid. You can't say that someone "failed" to sell their unusual for seven days when it's NOT POSSIBLE to trade their unusual for those days
Idk what youre on about, i go through multiple suggs a day, the fact that your stuff just happens to be repriced more often speaks to your quality as a trader more than anything. If you dont want hats you buy repriced, dont buy overpriced trash, and if you do, dont be suprised when its dropped.
Heres a tip, 90% of all first gens are grossly overpriced, Halloweens , eotl , robo and invasion effects are generally far better. This isnt personal and i hope you dont take it as such :)
Can you at least wait for a few sales before suggesting a price ? This really slows down the process of me actually selling it. I would really appreciate if you close this suggestion for the moment and wait for a few sales to occur to have an accurate suggestion. After all that’s what backpack.tf is for
I can't really see how this price suggestion would be accepted. The fact that the unboxer of this unusual sold it for pure as soon as it came tradable leads me to believe he was Qs it. Also the buyers shouldn't effect on this at all, all razor cut unusual buy orders are low even on the frostbite and darkblaze.
Never said buyers did affect this.
And there is no proof that the seller was the original unboxer, infact looking through his history he seems to buy alot from scm; its more than likely that he simply bought it from someone who doesnt use BP and was thus never registered.
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198095862827#!/compare/1554076800/1555372800
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198001665268#!/compare/1555286400/1555372800
Sold for Disco Beat Down Pencil Pusher + Cloud 9 Brainiac Hairpiece + The Snack Attack
Items leaving for trade hold:
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198095862827#!/compare/1553990400/1554076800
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198001665268#!/compare/1554076800/1554249600
Ty for reporting. I feel kinda sad to let it go for this price but suggestions are too strong to even try to sell for current price
Ok ill work on minis for both of those tonight. Thanks for reporting
Yeah that looks like the only valid clean sale on the pencil; cant take outdated
https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5cb7f032d3817266d2220542
but going by buyers + the brainiac sugg ^ the sale should end up close-ish to the 90 pure?
not sure so i'll wait for a mod
Once again, buyers shouldn’t affect a suggestion.
I sold it with a trade hold. I will keep you updated in 15 days (if this is still up). But seriously, suggestions should not be put up if we can expect the item to sell in the next days. This kind of suggestions influence A LOT the ability to sell.
Sold along with 6 keys for Hellfire Tam O' Shanter + Sunbeams Neckwear Headwear + Green Energy Airdog
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198001665268#!/compare/1555891200/1556064000
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198064569267#!/compare/1555977600/1556064000
Ty you can close that sugg now, if it is still not obvious
Pointless sugg, this is how you devalue hats. As said above, suggs should only be pointing out a continual drop of value, and should not be the leading factor in a hats decrease in value.
Pointless? No, the point (as you yourself pointed out) is to drop the hat.
2 sales well below the current outdated price is pretty continual (considering only 3 sales occurred)
whether or not a sugg is the factor in a hat dropping is irrelevant, buyers are free to choose to buy or not, a sugg existing doesnt explicitly prevent people from buying the hat, it just represents the new value.
High outlier given 79+100 on the tam + neck alone; even by buyers on the airdog (sugg coming) thats way higher than the other 2 sales (90 and 110ish)
https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5cc0f087d381723c6b77f7b0
https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5cc0d74dd381722c6933c339
with no buyout to cap at, this'll probably have to stay open until the DBD pusher sells (which wont be long im sure)
good try though
Both sales are notably higher than 90, though. I've only skimmed through the comments, but it seems as though it sold the day it became tradeable - those sales typically end up being low, and the fact that the other sales are higher now back that up further.
One could argue that ~110 would also be low because it was sold in a hurry, but I do not believe that's a good way to assess the situation here.
In either case, that leaves us with widely varying sales. Given the circumstances I would either give this a large range of 110 to whatever the high sale ends up at, or leave it until it resells again.