Suggestion: Starstorm Insomnia Wide-Brimmed Bandito at 11–16 keys

not really sure, as the two hats are being swapped back and forth. but tyrants is outdated @ 2 years, so if used, better used there as fewer sales for the tyrant.

SALE 8

unknown

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198928347702#!/compare/1561939200/1562025600

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198138677798#!/compare/1561939200/1562025600

SALE 9

unknown, though i think its scm

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198094987503#!/compare/1556755200/1557705600

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198045922945#!/compare/1546214400/1557187200

SALE 10

sold for 11 keys + 20 refined

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198122096342#!/compare/1556928000/1557187200

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198841279602#!/compare/1557100800/1557187200

would round down to 11 keys

SALE 11

unknown

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198841279602#!/compare/1557187200/1557273600

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198442272468#!/compare/1557273600/1557446400

SALE 12

sold for 11 keys + 20 refined

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198442272468#!/compare/1557446400/1557619200

would round down to 11 keys

SALE 13

unknown

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198928347702#!/compare/1557878400/1557964800

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198862126261#!/compare/1557878400/1557964800

SALE 14

unknown

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198190869957#!/compare/1556236800/1561161600

SALE 15

sold for blizzardy hotrod

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198417607013#!/compare/1561161600/1561248000

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198094720698#!/compare/1561161600/1561248000

taking 12 keys

quick mini for hotrod

sold for 12 keys + 12.33 refined

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198417607013#!/compare/1561161600/1561248000

rounds down to 12 keys

not using sales on this one as it involves a phisher and a scammer alt

https://backpack.tf/item/5267549901

SALE 16

unknown

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198302480205#!/compare/1559865600/1562112000

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198873545313#!/compare/1560556800/1563840000

SALE 17

sold for 14 keys

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198259347037#!/compare/1560038400/1560470400

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198278546360#!/compare/1560470400/1560556800

SALE 18

unknown

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198278546360#!/compare/1561075200/1561161600

SALE 19

unknown

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198150510492#!/compare/1562025600/1562284800

SALE 20

histories dont match up, unknown

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198278546360#!/compare/1559260800/1559433600

5 sales on marketplace

16.95 on may 29 (16.95 / 1.81 = 9.36 rounding to 9.5 keys)

28.99 on june 9 (28.99 / 1.82 = 15.92 rounding to 16 keys)

35 on june 24 (35 / 1.84 = 19.02 rounding to 19 keys)

17.08 on july 4 (17.08 / 1.84 = 9.28 rounding to 9.5 keys)

29.99 on july 9 (29.99 / 1.84 = 16.29 rounding to 16 keys)

https://marketplace.tf/items/tf2/30805;5;u109

classifieds at the time of making this suggestion.

https://gyazo.com/f7706b380b512dda8a63090d960b47df

sales at 11, 11, 11, 12, and 14. marketplace sales at 9.5, 9.5, 16, 16, and 19. 9.5 is low due to buyers at 10 and 11. 19 is high due to sellers and sales at lower. going to keep 11 as there are sales at lower to support 11, as well as multiple sales at 11. going to keep 16 as there is a sale at 14 and 19 to support 16, as well as two sales at 16.

all that being said, taking a range of 11-16 keys here.

I don't really see how a sale at 14 supports having 16 keys in the range.

Either way there's 3 sellers at 14 keys and one of them has been sitting there for a month.

https://gyazo.com/e37e0b63c4e4d419ba3b92fdf2cd5f35

Adding on top of that, all 16 key sales are marketplace. Those are often on the high side for these type of hats (and low-tiers in general, compared to what they sell for in keys). 16 doesn't seem to be a common trading point, there's sellers for less and they're marketplace sales. So all in all I would not include 16 in the range here.

Well there are multiple sales at higher. It's like having the sales at lower that all cant be ignored. It's the same reasoning for keeping 11 in the range. Your reasoning with the sellers, should be the same to exclude 11 in that case.

If I exclude 16 I should also be excluding 11.

Hm. Since they are marketplace sales and marketplace tends to be on the high side at times, I'll resuggest at 11 to 14.

As for me saying 14 supports 16, not sure why I said that.

The sales at 11 keys are very different than those at 16 keys.

https://bot.tf/stats/item?def=30805&q=5&ef=Starstorm+Insomnia&craft=1&aus=0&ks=0

https://gyazo.com/0826961517468132286166eb1a8f6db3

To begin with, there's a lot more of them. Implying than it's a commonly traded data point on this hat, which is why 11 needs to be included here.

16 however, is not. You've provided 2 sales at 16 keys that are both marketplace sales. The main issue with marketplace sales on these type of hat is that they are simply often too high. Marketplace charges sellers 10% fees so naturally hats sell for more than they would on the classifieds when you divide the sale / key price, because the hats simply get listed (and sold) for a higher amount. On these hats like the Bandito but most low tiers in general the marketplace are often outliers and I'd prefer having them excluded.

This is supported by the fact that there are numerous sellers on the classifieds at 14 keys, including one that's a month old. Why would we include 16 here if it's

a) not a common trading point

b) likely high sales due to it being marketplace sales, as explained above

c) there's a seller at 14 keys for over a month.

There are many more sales at 11 keys than there are at 16 keys. 11 keys is definitely a commonly traded point here, that needs to be included in the range.

I already understood all of which you said. Appreciate it nonetheless, was already going to re suggest anyways :p

Thank you.