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Mini for c9 woods
https://marketplace.tf/items/tf2/30704;5;u105
8/1 $150 / 1.8 = 83
https://backpack.tf/item/4446057511 https://bot.tf/stats/listings/4RGGL7X9 no b/o
8/9 $170 / 1.83 = 93
https://backpack.tf/item/4256654753 user banned, no b/o
Sale 1: Untrace
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198026398985#!/compare/1565913600/1566345600
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198080179568#!/compare/1565913600/1566000000
Sale 2: Untrace
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198055694560#!/compare/1560988800/1565136000
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198001786794#!/compare/1559779200/1561334400
Sale 3: Oneway?
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198001786794#!/compare/1562976000/1564099200
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198130979887#!/compare/1555200000/1563062400
Sale 4: Scorching Pithy | definitely needed there for range but by existing sales without it; would be ~80
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198118601370#!/compare/1564444800/1564790400
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198130979887#!/compare/1564444800/1565395200
Sale 5: Went w/ Slumber Cotton (40-45, see below), for VHP Spaceman (88 | 45k
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198205939253#!/compare/1561852800/1561939200
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198099652804#!/compare/1561852800/1561939200
https://bot.tf/stats/listings/4ZGXG3JM
Sale 6: Untrace
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198100484031#!/compare/1562198400/1562284800
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198205939253#!/compare/1562284800/1562371200
Sale 7, 8: 2x same day
> Went w/ hot prok bomber scatter fn (30) for dbd boa (ranging indate w/ unsold 80-107 / 94 | 64k
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198137138415#!/compare/1564617600/1564704000
https://bot.tf/stats/listings/Y8EEZGQW no cap
> SBTWC Pardner (duped, 1 tracable sale, not usable here or there, exclude)
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198304302520#!/compare/1564704000/1564790400
Sale 9: Mallard Modest (48)
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198045691027#!/compare/1564185600/1564876800
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198058751051#!/compare/1564790400/1564876800
https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5d791d6a67807242ca64b42e
Sale 10: C9 HKC (40k
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198192602363#!/compare/1565222400/1565395200
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198128792431#!/compare/1560816000/1565395200
Sale 11: 64k
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198254984333#!/compare/1560729600/1561075200
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198337734785#!/compare/1560988800/1561075200
Sale 12: HG Woolen (looks like theres no mini at all there, nothing but gambling on the only active history)
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198254984333#!/compare/1561852800/1562198400
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198054342002#!/compare/1561852800/1561939200
Sale 13: C9 woods + MN Cari | use on woods
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198310944756#!/compare/1562284800/1562371200
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198054342002#!/compare/1562284800/1562371200
Sale 14: C9 Woods + 17k + 72 cracker | use on woods
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198286257338#!/compare/1562630400/1562716800 https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198059703923#!/compare/1562630400/1562716800
Sale 15: Went w/ 5 for GE Snap (109) | 104k
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198170098378#!/compare/1565740800/1565913600
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198059703923#!/compare/1565827200/1565913600
Sale 16: Went w/ 10 for DBD Crones (131) | 121
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198170098378#!/compare/1566345600/1566432000
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198170143095#!/compare/1566345600/1566432000
Sale 17: PE Bomber + 3k (1 other sale there, better there)
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198141559134#!/compare/1566432000/1566518400
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198170143095#!/compare/1566432000/1566518400
Sale 18: 34k
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198298597700#!/compare/1561420800/1561507200
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198080179568#!/compare/1561507200/1561593600
Sale 19: Oneway
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198362008411#!/compare/1563840000/1563926400
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198874388908#!/compare/1563840000/1563926400
Sale 20: DP Tundra (14) + Slumber Kiss (19) + HG Eyewear (29) | 62
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198143069094#!/compare/1563840000/1564012800 https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198362008411#!/compare/1563926400/1564012800
> no b/o because seller is banned
https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5d7e86bed38172142b5e582c
https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5d7e8eb7678072785c7e55f1
Sale 21: Eldritch Prehistoric (61) + 35k adds | cap at 90k
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198143069094#!/compare/1564531200/1564617600
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198150928348#!/compare/1564099200/1564617600
https://bot.tf/stats/listings/4EEEDZWQ
Sale 22, 23: 2x same day
> Swirl Conga + hot fest prok aqua rl ww + twatt sam (13) + neutron nasty (22) |
Buyers on the conga / rl cap this at 89k
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198129205357#!/compare/1563667200/1563753600
https://bot.tf/stats/listings/M0DZQG7V
> Untrace
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198312579376#!/compare/1563753600/1563840000
>> 22/23 from https://backpack.tf/item/4292463514 rest there is tradeback / contributory
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Duped sbtwc parder mini
> incomplete
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198431601848#!/compare/1563235200/1564704000
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Slumber Cotton mini
https://backpack.tf/stats/Unusual/Cotton%20Head/Tradable/Craftable/110
Sale 1: 45k
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198317418604#!/compare/1564531200/1564617600
Sale 2: Bulk
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198048017265#!/compare/1565222400/1565308800
Sale 3: Bulk
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198205939253#!/compare/1561852800/1561939200
Sale 4: Went w/ 3 for misty toque
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198205939253#!/compare/1562198400/1562284800
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198125295112#!/compare/1562198400/1562284800
https://bot.tf/stats/listings/Y5XLRJ94 b/o of 40
Sale 5, 6: 2x same day
> Gfetti Salty (25) | way below buyers
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198125295112#!/compare/1564531200/1564790400
> Untrace
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198071140072#!/compare/1564790400/1564876800
Sale 7: Went w/ 6 for c9 salty (low af, buyers here above unsold there without the keys added, this would be even lower)
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198159393035#!/compare/1565308800/1565395200
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198091502579#!/compare/1565222400/1565308800
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Toque likely needs the sale more than this does (more outdated) however, even with the toque, we have massively discrepant sales (2 ~20 and 2 well above 40) this cant be updated but for the sake of the mini, I’m going to range the capped toque (since buyers there virtually cap anyway) with the usable pure sale and just call 5 and 7 way too low, since they’re too low on the cotton anyway. Additionally, this is a minority part of the prehistoric sale, so 40-45 should suffice as buyers well counter the lower sales.
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Sales
34
40
45
48
62
64
64
80 (this specific one is a use-there but theres enough sales there to generate a theoretical range that the prehistoric would support the middle of
83
89
90
93
104
121
Time to sale for all
64 pure / 9 days
34 pure / 2mo
80 / 2 weeks
45 / 1 day
64 / 9 days
48 / 2 weeks
40 / 9mo? likely less
104 / ~1mo
121 / 5 days
62 / 2 days
90 / 5 days
89 / 2 weeks
MP sale is hard to date accurately, however both had been listed for 9-10 days each.
Going with 45-90
Given a host of reasons, the highs are too high / the lows are too low, however enough of the highs exist to counter unsolds and enough of the lows exist to counter buyers, and excluding both would not be an accurate representation. 45-90 well encapsulates both without an excessively wide range.
https://prnt.sc/p6ihgn classifieds at the time of posting
https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5d7eacd56780720a1d2ec9ee pithy
Buyers at 52. 62 would be a better low end
https://imgur.com/a/NTyPCQz - Also highly doubt 34 was 34
40's only 40 because of the Depression tanking the HKC, so I doubt 40 should be considered valid in the context of being below the Prehistoric's buyers.
The 45 sale is bulk.
without julia clarifying her sale, im taking 34 as what it is (supportive of the low end)
40 is 40 regardless of what priced down the HKC, its now worth 40
45 is not bulk. even with the new price its not bulk. the prehistoric is a majority part of it since the cotton is 43 and the prehistoric at current is more than double that and with the new price will be 25k higher than 43.
4 sales well below 3 buyers are not countered by buyers, but i suspect this will be up for a while so we'll see if more low sales occur
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edit:
, 3 sales vs 3 buyers, 45 still should be the low end as its inclusive of all; given the unsolds this needs a drop and simply capping the low end at unsolds and effectively raising it when much lower sales occurred is dishonest
edit 2: looks like 34 was false after all
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/763846429158344831/D9E6961F84F2675A70AD3C769408D6FE2E7701B2/
per fish that is sufficient proof
for sale 12, the Hg Woolen does have one other sale:
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198231473072#!/compare/1566086400/1566172800
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198163041781#!/compare/1566086400/1566172800
Sold with ~3 keys in sweets for Clocked Dragon Born + Static Headsplitter
Splitter history : https://backpack.tf/item/5294376292
Dragonborn Mini: https://backpack.tf/item/1649371166
can be used to update the Woolen
More sales :
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198110827768#!/compare/1569110400/1569196800
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198394877897#!/compare/1569110400/1569196800
Sold for ~52 keys to a bot
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198118601370#!/compare/1571184000/1571443200
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197972389354#!/compare/1571270400/1571443200
Sold with ~5 keys in sweets for PE Tipped(76.5)
Total is 71.5 keys
https://bot.tf/stats/listings/4PPW65J5
B/O of 88 keys
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198086556424#!/compare/1569369600/1569542400
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198126707319#!/compare/1564185600/1569542400
Sold for ~33 keys in sweets?
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198126707319#!/compare/1571443200/1571529600
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198259986634#!/compare/1571356800/1571529600
Sold for 82 keys, though it may be worth clarifying with owner / seller.
so in order thatd be 33 52 72 and 82 (unconfirmed)
if anything i think this supports the wide-ass range we currently have, even cutting off the outliers this would still end up with an arguably similar median (67 w/ the main sugg, 62 ish with the new sales)
thanks for reporting!
33 is probably wrong; 52 sold to an actual buyer :P these sales support the higher values more than the lower ones.
I would definitely not set a low end below buyers here, especially not given the reasons posted by shuffle above on some of the sales already.
Excluding the sub-buyer sales would be an unbalanced range though.
However, what would you propose?
Not really, it has already been established that 33 and 34 (at the very least this one) are very likely wrong; the 45 sale should definitely not be used here. the cone uses post-crash cone value for a precrash sale, so that's not an appropriate value.
That leaves the low end spectrum sales at 48 and 52, the latter of which sold to a buyer. the high end also loses 2 sales, so it's not even that unbalanced if you exclude those.
Had a sale a few months back for my RA Bombing Run. Got the bombing run along with 15k for this hat.