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Collector’s Vaccinator (122 keys)
Why 122 keys? last collector trade was made half an year ago on market for50+ keys https://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/440/Collector%27s%20Vaccinator . I really qurious how on earth the mod who accepted your previous vaccinator price change did it with no minies in the trades , one bulk sale and only one valid sale on marketplace. Furthermore you used then the very same proof you use now. Then it was a normal sticky for the vaccinator now vice versa.
things change in half a year
prove your point with in-date proof, i have mine
it sounds to me like you didn’t read the vaccinator suggestion, because i showed where i tried to mini the rotation sensation involved, and showed that there is no possible mini
then i used the three marketplace sales to conjure a price and i used the price of the vaccinator on this stickybomb launcher
i mean theres clearly three valid marketplace sales on the vaccinator suggestion...
so collectors vaccinator is worth ~122 keys based off the three marketplace sales, and the normal sticky was traded for a collectors vaccinator. that would mean the normal sticky is worth a collectors vaccinator, right?
if not, then prove me wrong with real proof and not made up opinions
No definately not. Thats what im saying the vaccinator was traded THEN for a sticky that costed THEN about 50 keys. So it should either bring down the vaccinator price down OR be used in a different suggestion to bring up the price of the sticky as you do now. All you do is to bring item values 1:1 all the way around which is not the point .
The Normal Sticky wasn’t in date at the time, and the price clearly is not 50 keys. There’s buyers at 80 keys for the normal sticky alone. The buyers on the Vaccinator are higher than 50 keys as well, proving that the sticky needs a price increase as well.
And if the sticky was in date at 50 keys, the sales on the vaccinator would be 50, ~110, ~120, ~130. 50 is clearly the outlier, so it would not drop the vaccinator in any way. So it would make more sense to use the vaccinator’s price to price the sticky. Because the sticky has quickbuyers higher than its BP price. There’s no other traceable sales on the sticky. If you want to prove a point, provide evidence that the sticky is not worth 122 keys or the vaccinator is not worth 122 keys.
i just provided you proof that you using 1 trade to price suggest 2 items that was included in the trade vice versa. even if the buyer was at 80 keys it isnt 122 keys. If i offer mine Bubbling Helmet Without a Home (8 keys) for yours Burning Flames Infernal Impaler (145 keys) does it mean that both hats are 8 keys ? Then ill use the same trade to resuggest them for 145 . Ok cool..
You didn’t provide any proof, all you did was make up an argument that was wrong. Here’s my proof:
https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5e06d8b8a08367682014e207
https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5e099daf57fe5d4b4d73cbf5
If we traded your helmet for impaler, we could use other data points to prove whether the trade is low or high for either hat. But since you didn’t provide any data points at all, then the trade is as baseless as the argument you’re making.
Bro you are telling me proof proof etc when its obvious after what i wrote that i talk about proof that you used in the links you sent me. You also go full attack mode for no reason when i simply ask you: Is it logical to use 1 trade where 2 items were traded to increase the price of one item at first and then the price of the second item (after the first suggestion has passed) ?
Yes, it is logical to use suggestions in that manner, I’ve done it many times before.
https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5e207aab902ea4254e7ab172
https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5e207ac0902ea4254e7ab176
Nether Helm used to price this Scattergun, because it’s the only usable sale on the Scattergun
https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5e1d1e07b900c5623264d723
https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5e1d1e352cef490b806fcafe
Iron Bomber used to price the Claidheamh Mor, because the Claidheamh has no other usable sales
https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5e0e596f2fa3561f932fa541
Blizzard Antlers used to price the Sniper Rifle with Blizzard Antler’s only usable sale
If we couldn’t use suggestions like that, then the only thing suggestions would ever pass for is a full pure sale.
And if you think this is some attack mode, then you’re mistaken. I proved from the beginning the the Normal Sticky is worth 122 keys because Collector’s Vaccinator is worth 122 keys and the Normal Sticky was traded for the Collector’s Vaccinator.
I’m done replying to this situation because there’s nothing for me to gain and this conversation has turned unpleasant. If you want suggestion help, ask the moderators in the backpack.tf discord.
No you are tottally wrong. Before basically bp monopoly you had trades from outpost and bazaar where it was clearly written down what was offered . Only one of the items was priced . What is happening here is basically price manipulation.Not your fault , i dont have anything against you. Its the fact that it is allowed to happen first place and for so long as you confirm that freak me out. I really hope a mod would check and let know if what was written above , meaning: ....Is it logical to use 1 trade where 2 items were traded to increase the price of one item at first and then the price of the second item (after the first suggestion has passed) ? .... is acceptable/legit. Cheers bro and peace!
https://marketplace.tf/shop/crownhasfallen/items/tf2/207;0;strange;kt-1
new sale
rip, buyers still at 80 keys though
it also sold to my mp buyorder so meh
Sold it, did not have a b/o, also the non ks has a new sale
Thank you for the information!