(The bot didn't buy/sell all of the keys at the 51.88-52 Ref Range since there is evidence give by Blaze.xTH3RM4Lx of him buying keys from this bot at a different price, but the point is that it's lower than the current price)
54 Keys @~52.66-52.11 Ref (Sales made by this bot: https://backpack.tf/u/76561198273955331 I don't know the exact price that the keys were sold/bought at, but they HAD to be lower than 52.88 since I compared the backpack from yesterday with today and keys were a fair bit lower yesterday compared to when I made my previous suggestion.)
I closed my previous suggestion and created this one cause bots started lowering the price like crazy after I posted the suggestion and now it's out of date, so I made this one that's more up to date. I dont have as much proof as my last suggestion cause the price kept changing frequently so I can't compare backpacks and such since bots were changing the price like 2 or 3 times a day. I'm 100% sure that there are A LOT of sales at this price range and this price range seems to be the ones bots are finally settling on. As always if anyone has more proof, feel free to add.
So the bots are going to low the prices key damn rip
Bots were the ones responsible for making the key prices so darn high in the first place, so it's actually a good thing that they're lowering it for once.
Remember when keys were, like, 20 refs 4 years ago? When I came back to this game, I was shocked to see it had doubled. Didn't know bots had that kind of power over the economy.
best price of keys i can remember was like .... 34 ref? how long ago that was?
like around 2017 lmao
I remember when it was between 2 and 3 ref tbh x) Yeah, long time ago ahah
From 2020 to 2011 btw
Jeez, back when scrap banking actually worked
And with more and more people selling, the further it will drop. It happened once with buds, it's happened with bill's hat and it's happening again.
Nah, Bill's hats and buds were destined to fail. I'd say that what really killed them is stuff like Marketplace.tf and paying for expensive items with real money rather than items. Because nowadays items have like 3 price ranges: items you pay with refined, items you pay with keys, and everything else that is ridiculously expensive. Also, what Item is sold very frequently that's worth more than a key or 2? There is simply no need for more expensive currency because very few people trade items with such high prices.
What I meant was that mass sales do in fact help dropping the price.Obvious that keys and refined are the main currencies but with the ammount being sold now it's obvious they will drop further. But yeah I agree with a majority of what you said.
Aussies are used for pure in mid to high unusual trades
More proof!
More sales done by my key bot after I posted the suggestion:
38x @51.88: (I assume the # of sales are higher than the ones @52 is because people are panicking and cashing out)
Also, it looks like 52-51.88 is 100% the range bots are going to be settling on, here's a screenshot of the classifieds 24 hours later after I made my suggestion, only 1 bot selling at 51.88 and the only buy order above 51.88 is at 52.44 and it been listed several days ago and the owner hasn't bumped it since so it's an obvious outlier.
oh lordy they keep on dropping
Trading Sites:
Scrap.tf: https://i.imgur.com/YeQfE7e.png
Stn.tf: https://i.imgur.com/FlQF9wK.png
Backpack.tf Classifieds: https://i.imgur.com/RcVKXAs.png
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Sales:
Sales from my key bot: (Selling @52 Buying @51.88)
https://imgur.com/Mr4Axgw
https://imgur.com/Lt5Z1wk
https://imgur.com/bagi42n
https://imgur.com/vMePjCy
https://imgur.com/wGzk953
https://imgur.com/aCICT5U
https://imgur.com/v8Z3bNX
https://imgur.com/gVEwtPu
https://imgur.com/fmHZrZZ
https://imgur.com/x6waHgo
https://imgur.com/1AHkZI7
https://imgur.com/aP8Y397
https://i.imgur.com/W1IMBtF.png
https://i.imgur.com/82ChptA.png
https://i.imgur.com/nSYGaNv.png
https://i.imgur.com/JTUFE6e.png
https://i.imgur.com/Nd92krK.png
https://i.imgur.com/cJaKbis.png
https://i.imgur.com/9GXeLwQ.png
20x @52
https://imgur.com/DDjjTZq
https://i.imgur.com/j7aL4lt.png
https://imgur.com/Z0zNy71
https://imgur.com/thL13M6
https://i.imgur.com/SiLhNb7.png
https://i.imgur.com/gmTLCSV.png
17x @51.88
A bot that sold 35 Keys and Bought 31 Keys: https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198273955331#!/compare/1589587200/1589673600
(The bot didn't buy/sell all of the keys at the 51.88-52 Ref Range since there is evidence give by Blaze.xTH3RM4Lx of him buying keys from this bot at a different price, but the point is that it's lower than the current price)
12 keys sold @52.11: https://imgur.com/a/Ry300Q0
Total:
12 Keys @52.11 Ref
20 Keys @52 Ref
17 Keys @51.88 Ref
54 Keys @~52.66-52.11 Ref (Sales made by this bot: https://backpack.tf/u/76561198273955331 I don't know the exact price that the keys were sold/bought at, but they HAD to be lower than 52.88 since I compared the backpack from yesterday with today and keys were a fair bit lower yesterday compared to when I made my previous suggestion.)
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Misc. Proof:
A day-old buy listing versus a more recent listing: https://i.imgur.com/QiO8DH3.png
Rate of keys for some bots:
https://i.imgur.com/sxCzRJ1.png
https://i.imgur.com/day1gx4.png
https://i.imgur.com/fcEbRsc.png
https://i.imgur.com/II7ypWC.png
https://i.imgur.com/LMjnkXe.png
https://i.imgur.com/8NgmmrK.png
https://i.imgur.com/1l5vhjv.png (My bot)
https://i.imgur.com/SCKu79W.png (My bot)
Page 2 of Classifieds: https://i.imgur.com/S5KaKPs.png
Page 3 of Classifieds: https://i.imgur.com/kxmJzVi.png (Bots are definitely settling on this range)
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I closed my previous suggestion and created this one cause bots started lowering the price like crazy after I posted the suggestion and now it's out of date, so I made this one that's more up to date. I dont have as much proof as my last suggestion cause the price kept changing frequently so I can't compare backpacks and such since bots were changing the price like 2 or 3 times a day. I'm 100% sure that there are A LOT of sales at this price range and this price range seems to be the ones bots are finally settling on. As always if anyone has more proof, feel free to add.
(Previous Suggestion: https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5eb9ef5e34e62548401aa7e7)
So the bots are going to low the prices key damn rip
Bots were the ones responsible for making the key prices so darn high in the first place, so it's actually a good thing that they're lowering it for once.
Remember when keys were, like, 20 refs 4 years ago? When I came back to this game, I was shocked to see it had doubled. Didn't know bots had that kind of power over the economy.
best price of keys i can remember was like .... 34 ref? how long ago that was?
like around 2017 lmao
I remember when it was between 2 and 3 ref tbh x) Yeah, long time ago ahah
From 2020 to 2011 btw
Jeez, back when scrap banking actually worked
And with more and more people selling, the further it will drop. It happened once with buds, it's happened with bill's hat and it's happening again.
Nah, Bill's hats and buds were destined to fail. I'd say that what really killed them is stuff like Marketplace.tf and paying for expensive items with real money rather than items. Because nowadays items have like 3 price ranges: items you pay with refined, items you pay with keys, and everything else that is ridiculously expensive. Also, what Item is sold very frequently that's worth more than a key or 2? There is simply no need for more expensive currency because very few people trade items with such high prices.
What I meant was that mass sales do in fact help dropping the price.Obvious that keys and refined are the main currencies but with the ammount being sold now it's obvious they will drop further. But yeah I agree with a majority of what you said.
Aussies are used for pure in mid to high unusual trades
More proof!
More sales done by my key bot after I posted the suggestion:
38x @51.88: (I assume the # of sales are higher than the ones @52 is because people are panicking and cashing out)
https://i.imgur.com/fhGH801.png
https://i.imgur.com/EjUv9M0.png
https://i.imgur.com/yGnFX9i.png
https://i.imgur.com/97JB2XE.png
https://i.imgur.com/bph9xaa.png
https://i.imgur.com/lLxCuhh.png
https://i.imgur.com/m9nuR2J.png
https://i.imgur.com/M4dc49X.png
https://i.imgur.com/2aICxc3.png
https://i.imgur.com/JcM3Xaz.png
https://i.imgur.com/NuspTYZ.png
https://i.imgur.com/uwvqIZR.png
https://i.imgur.com/KBZiP9s.png
https://i.imgur.com/nDF5xmd.png
30x @52:
https://i.imgur.com/xr3MNM2.png
https://i.imgur.com/KHi28u4.png
https://i.imgur.com/EjntVFs.png
https://i.imgur.com/aiZDc0O.png
https://i.imgur.com/Sjmcijt.png
https://i.imgur.com/GeJrSQu.png
https://i.imgur.com/HTX8pkN.png
https://i.imgur.com/FzbHKVa.png
https://i.imgur.com/nHU1MVw.png
https://i.imgur.com/LLpaKhV.png
https://i.imgur.com/RKTJhIe.png
https://i.imgur.com/q4USTzJ.png
https://i.imgur.com/V4FB319.png
https://i.imgur.com/bzg7GLu.png
https://i.imgur.com/PqFt8Ts.png
https://i.imgur.com/8US3C5C.png
https://i.imgur.com/eSpQOez.png
So right now the total is:
12 Keys @52.11 Ref
50 Keys @52 Ref
55 Keys @51.88 Ref
54 Keys @~52.66-52.11 Ref
Value of keys on Trade.tf: https://i.imgur.com/xL18Y4l.png
Also, it looks like 52-51.88 is 100% the range bots are going to be settling on, here's a screenshot of the classifieds 24 hours later after I made my suggestion, only 1 bot selling at 51.88 and the only buy order above 51.88 is at 52.44 and it been listed several days ago and the owner hasn't bumped it since so it's an obvious outlier.
https://i.imgur.com/R9KEzTn.png
Bots Should make it more lower now. Didn't know Bots can actually have this type of Power
This is the reason i sell my whole backpack (except some craft weapons)
for sell all my keys,
i never liked have keys because they drop or increase every month :/
That's exactly how currency works...
meh hope this end soon so i can buy keys again and keep whit high value items profit ( trading very low items currently :(
keys are and will always fluctuate price in ref, but they've always been consistent in terms of real money.