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This is my first suggestion I’ve done research on, so any feedback is appreciated. I’d like input on which values to use, although I think that 80 to 86 is fair, other people might disagree. I know the value needs to be updated, but as I’m new to this I’m not sure which most accurately represents the price. I updated my math from the last section and used the links Mockingbird gave me in the previous suggestion to gather trades for an all around more accurate price.
Here is an im.gur album with the 4 trades, each labelled: https://imgur.com/a/i6Dl7ra
Item Trades:
https://backpack.tf/item/7732208309
- September 14: Tundra Top for 49 keys + Green Energy Head Hedge (26.5 keys) for a total of 75.5 keys [Trade 1]
https://backpack.tf/item/7476800867
- September 11th: Tundra Top and 9 keys for a Frozen Icefall Bumble Bee (70-100 keys) [Trade 2] (Values Tundra between 61 and 91)
- September 1st: Tundra Top for Circling Hearts Killer Exclusive (97 keys), 9 keys, and 7.83 keys in taunts for a total of 113.83 keys [Trade 3]
https://backpack.tf/item/7447599887
- October 7th: Marketplace sale
- September 16th: Tundra Top for Haunted Phantasm JR Neckwear Headwear (105 keys) and 6.18 keys in items for a total of 111.18 keys [Trade 4]
https://backpack.tf/item/6760354424
- Marketplace sale
Sales that I can’t determine:
https://backpack.tf/item/6847563841 - all buyers/sellers have tons of trades
https://backpack.tf/item/6841303453 - all buyers/sellers have tons of trades
https://backpack.tf/item/6752106425 - recent buyers/sellers have tons of trades, others are 2+ months old
- Tons of unusuals traded/sold for seller/buyers, no way to determine value -- I'm too stupid, if anyone knows how let me know and I’ll get the values :)
All Unusual/Key Sell Values:
75.5 keys, 76 keys (61-91 keys), 113.83 keys, 111.18 keys
Marketplace Sales (W/ Avg. key price from day of sale):
Oct 18 | $124 | $124/1.87 per key = 66.31 keys
Oct 10 | $134 | $134/1.88 per key = 71.27 keys
Oct 8 | $133.34 | $133.34/1.87 per key = 71.30 keys
Oct 7 | $120 | $120/1.87 per key = 64.17 keys
Oct 6 | $155 | $155/1.87 per key = 82.88 keys
Sept 23 | $161 | $161/1.86 per key = 86.55 keys
Sept 20 | $130 | $130/1.85 per key = 70.27 keys
Low range refers to pricing of the Frozen Icefall Bumblebee. The tundra added 9 keys, so I subtract 9 keys from the high/low price. Low range (70) values it at [61], while the high range (100) values it at [91] (i address how this is mostly pointless further down, don’t worry)
With marketplace.tf outliers:
Low Range: 75.5 + [61] + 113.83 + 111.18 + *66.31* + 71.27 + 71.30 + *64.17* + 82.88 + 86.55 + 70.27 = 874.26 / 11 = Avg of 79.47 keys
High Range: 75.5 + [91] + 113.83 + 111.18 + *66.31* + 71.27 + 71.30 + *64.17* + 82.88 + 86.55 + 70.27 = 904.26 / 11 = Avg of 82.2 keys
Without marketplace.tf outliers:
Low Range: 75.5 + [61] + 113.83 + 111.18 + 71.27 + 71.30 + 82.88 + 86.55 + 70.27 = 743.78 / 9 = Avg of 82.6422 keys
High Range: 75.5 + [91] + 113.83 + 111.18 + 71.27 + 71.30 + 82.88 + 86.55 + 70.27 = 773.78 / 9 = Avg of 86 keys
After doing the math I realized I could have just used 76 instead of 61-91, which would give an equally accurate average with less math. On the bright side I can now use the low range outlier and high range w/o outlier to determine the range, which I believe is more accurate anyway
Since a lot of the low value sales are marketplace.tf sells for cash, I think an average of with/without them is accurate, but I will change if people think otherwise.
Proposed values
- Average with outliers, 80.835 keys
- Average without outliers, 84.32 keys
- Average of with and without outliers, 82.5 keys
I went with 80-86, as I think it gives the best approximation.
It's clear you have put a lot of effort into this, that's quite something!
I'm afraid what you've done to the Marketplace.tf sales doesn't quite work, the math is correct but you shouldn't find the average of all of the sales, each marketplace.tf sale is it's own unique data point and should be treated individually.
With each history link it is best to include the URL for the compare links, I see you've screenshotted the trade also which is fine but supplying the URL of the page you're screenshotting helps as we can see from histories whether hats match or not (IE to see which items were or weren't involved)
Hats such as the Green Energy Head Hedge will need a mini too! https://forums.backpack.tf/topic/67144-suggestion-guide-what-is-a-mini/
As Lemons pointed out, you need to treat each individual sale as it's own data point; don't take averages or anything like that.
For each MPTf sale, you should also try to find each item history that matches with each sale.
For your item sales, linking histories isn't enough. you must link both sides of the compare of the actual trade.
Here's all your item sales plus some you missed / new ones:
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198093629316#!/compare/1597363200/1601424000
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198067753612#!/compare/1597881600/1599609600
untrace
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198067753612#!/compare/1602547200/1602633600
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198088707185#!/compare/1602547200/1602633600
Sold for 68 keys
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198088707185#!/compare/1602633600/1602720000
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198000889832#!/compare/1602547200/1602720000
Sold for keys, can trace 10
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198000889832#!/compare/1602547200/1602720000
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198192434469#!/compare/1602633600/1602892800
Sold for Gourdian Khamon
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198120467518#!/compare/1600905600/1600992000
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198258728302#!/compare/1600905600/1600992000
Bulk / transfer
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198258728302#!/compare/1600992000/1601078400
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198045147799#!/compare/1601078400/1601164800
Sold for Gluons Spiky + Strange Blizzardy Scout Shako + 72 Carlton + ~36 keys in sweets
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198174759381#!/compare/1599264000/1600128000
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198209822445#!/compare/1599955200/1600041600
Sold with 1 key for Burning Noble + Aussie SMG(~10)
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198332451249#!/compare/1602201600/1602547200
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198139171368#!/compare/1602374400/1602460800
Keys?
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198139171368#!/compare/1602460800/1602547200
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198017911489#!/compare/1602460800/1602547200
Bulky
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198017911489#!/compare/1602547200/1602633600
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198056086416#!/compare/1602547200/1602633600
Bulk
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198056086416#!/compare/1602720000/1602806400
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198095022965#!/compare/1602720000/1602806400
Bulk
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198266281070#!/compare/1600387200/1604534400
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198054270952#!/compare/1600387200/1600473600
QS
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198081791129#!/compare/1603843200/1604016000
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198195933333#!/compare/1603929600/1604016000
QS
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198195933333#!/compare/1603929600/1604016000
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198218095591#!/compare/1603929600/1604016000
Sold for 64 keys
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198218095591#!/compare/1604275200/1604361600
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198001673221#!/compare/1604275200/1604361600
Sold for 78 keys
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198001673221#!/compare/1605052800/1605139200
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198189534714#!/compare/1605052800/1605139200
Sold for 75 keys
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198163755834#!/compare/1600041600/1600214400
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198071928162#!/compare/1600041600/1600387200
sold for GE Hedge + 50 keys
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198178387359#!/compare/1597276800/1597536000
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198195933333#!/compare/1597622400/1597708800
QS
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198195933333#!/compare/1597708800/1597795200
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198303886984#!/compare/1597708800/1597795200
Sold for 67 keys
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198303886984#!/compare/1598572800/1598659200
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198075299322#!/compare/1598486400/1598572800
sold with TW Billy for Scorching Modest + 10 keys
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198075299322#!/compare/1598918400/1599004800
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198851934648#!/compare/1598918400/1599004800
sold for CH KE + ~11 keys in sweets
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198851934648#!/compare/1599782400/1599868800
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198342853613#!/compare/1599782400/1599955200
Sold with 10 keys for Icefall Beenie
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198342853613#!/compare/1599782400/1599955200
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198211780469#!/compare/1597968000/1600905600
sold for 70 keys
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198035503919#!/compare/1597622400/1598659200
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198195933333#!/compare/1598227200/1598572800
QS
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198195933333#!/compare/1598572800/1598659200
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198158206236#!/compare/1598486400/1598572800
Keys
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198158206236#!/compare/1600041600/1600214400
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198254860581#!/compare/1600128000/1600473600
Sold for Phantasm Neckwear + ~5 keys in sweets
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198254860581#!/compare/1602028800/1602115200
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198209374168#!/compare/1603929600/1604016000
untrace
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198209374168#!/compare/1603929600/1604016000
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198083529163#!/compare/1508284800/1604188800
Bulk
alot of the unusual items will need minis:
https://forums.backpack.tf/topic/67144-suggestion-guide-what-is-a-mini/
You'll need to close this, and can resuggest once the minis are made with a new range that accounts for all sales, and gets rid of outliers.
You can check this guide:
https://forums.backpack.tf/topic/6033-rules-for-unusual-price-suggestions/
You've had a week to respond. Closing.
https://imgur.com/a/Cz8X3zW
Bought one a few minutes ago for 78 keys
Sold a few days one for the same amount 78 keys
https://imgur.com/a/9u8ba5Q