Suggestion: Green Energy Bread Heads at 255 keys

If it's a quicksell and you flip for more, I'll amend the suggestion later. Until then, i think this stays open for a month. https://forums.backpack.tf/topic/6033-rules-for-unusual-price-suggestions/

Going with part 3 exception 1 here. Looks like 0 sales in 8 months in the history

it will stay open at least till the sale you provided is a month old

Yep! is the rounding fine on the 2 items?

I DM'ed Xergoyf and he told me that if the circumstances I bought it under were true, it would most likely be passed off as a QS.

The thing that throws me off is that it looks as if it hadn't sold in 8 months, plus that convo about quicksells happened after I put up the suggestion.

TBF, you suggested it literally 30 seconds after the trade took place. And it still doesn't change the fact that he had been attempting to sell it for an hour. Like, if you check his backpack history, it wasn't in his backpack on the 17th - https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198051149088

Do you know how much he paid for it?

no, but it was somewhere in the 100s, and i believe he had declined 180 a few times within the hour or two he had it

Probably worth trying to verify that - if he paid much less then the sales here would be too discrepant, and we'd need a third sale to determine the outlier.

he paid around 185, isn't that too big of a gap?

https://gyazo.com/f8cde231b3b8ecbb50ca86a41e7e5b65

255 is a HELL of a lot more different than 185

Not sure what you mean by this. 185-255 is a bit of a gap but isn't nuts

in terms of accepting this suggestion then yes it is

Mods decide on that. Unless u got something to add, lets just wait on them

Yeah i do have something to add i also got + - X /

Sorry for the slow response - got caught up in some stuff and this had escaped my mind.

I suppose if the sale was in that ballpark, I do not believe the gap is too large here. In such situations you generally get a range between the two sales.

However, a couple of other factors play a part in this particular situation:

- As you mentioned, 185 is an approximation; I cannot manage to verify the sale through compares

- The trade was held in trade hold; this generally implies people will be less likely to buy, which logically yields slightly lower values

- It was flipped relatively fast, which would also vouch for it to be on the low side.

All of this would point towards excluding the sale at ~185

It does however put the sale at 255 in perspective. On single sales, it is generally hard to judge if something is an outlier or not, as there is nothing to compare to. This means that unless we have very strong indications that the value is wrong, we accept most single sale suggestions as is if the items do not resell within a month.

Several factors may play a role in determining whether the single sale is acceptable for a suggestion. Examples of situations where the sale may end up being rejected despite having no other (usable) sales:

- When the buyer of the hat (or other owners of the same hat) struggle to sell for less

- When there are other (poorly or not directly usable) sales that strongly imply that the only usable sale's value is too high/low

- When the purchase was to a buy order

In some rare cases, hats do not sell to buy orders, but are sold so fast that the value you get is obviously too low. It is very hard to make appropriate distinctions here, analogous to how obviously high purchases (by collectors for example) are difficult to label as such without additional information. In this case, it is without doubt that it sold fast. In these cases it is helpful to note that how fast something sells is not automatically a reason for a sale to be exempt from being used in suggestions - something that sold in a day could also have been a lucky sale. Outliers are primarily determined by their deviation from the mean, and deciding whether or not something is an outlier is then often supported by other factors such as the time it took to sell. In cases with few sales, this is difficult of course, due to the lack of comparison material.

In this particular case, we do have another sale, and we see that its value is lower than the sale used here. Despite not being used directly (for the reasons pointed out above), it does make the case to rule 255 as obviously too low a lot more difficult to justify.

This of course does not mean the value can't be on the low side, and most definitely does not mean it is impossible to get more for it, but for suggestion purposes, I believe this is fine to report as is, which is why I will be accepting this. Should it resell, it can always be suggested again.