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I found a dollar bill frozen in ice; it was cold hard cash.
Sale 1:
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198142721484#!/compare/1615593600/1615680000
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198847680167#!/compare/1615507200/1615766400
Further proof of trade: https://i.imgur.com/aH4pVDi.png
Sold for 30 pure + C9 Crones Dome (130) + Misty Skull Company Man (300)
30 + 130 + 300 = 460
Sale 2:
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198045710515#!/compare/1615593600/1615766400
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198847680167#!/compare/1615507200/1615766400
Further proof of trade: https://i.imgur.com/TjSPzJL.png
Sold for Molten Mallard Luchadore (132) + Death at Dusk Tough Stuff Muffs (130) + Fragmented Gluons Caribou (75) + Fragmented Photons Chullo (210) + Strange Fragmented Quarks Winter Wrap (70)
132 + 130 + 75 + 210 + 70 = 617
Current classified seller has it up for 900, so its time to bump this hat up.
https://i.imgur.com/Zu4uwoF.png
You need proof that all those items in both sales are valued at your estimations.
C9 Crones Dome has three sellers at 130 keys, and prior sales at that range. Misty Skull Company man is up for 300 keys and has a prior sale for well above that range. Other prices are backpack.tf suggestion amounts.
They’re like all outdated so they don’t count. You need to price suggest all those.
I can just adjust the crones and company man down to backpack.tf suggestion values if need be, but I am not experienced enough to price suggest them..
This won’t pass unless everything in the sales are priced suggested or have minis.
What specific hats need to be price suggested?
Everything that has an outdated price (over 3 months old backpack.tf price). So the C9 Crone's, Misty Company Man, D@d muffs, FG Caribou, FP Chullo, and FQ Wrap Up. The Mallard Luchadore is barely in date but could probably be used as it is. It's also worth to mention that if these trades had a pure buyout (which they very likely had) the item sales cap at these buyouts. Unfortunately I can't help you find the buyouts but maybe a mod can.
Finding buyouts is easy, just use Gladiator.tf stats https://gladiator.tf/listings?item=Frostbite%20Winter%20Woodsman
When a sale happens, check the date of the compares and go through this page and find a day or two just before it sold, then you'll see the buyout
Oh, thanks a lot! As for this suggestion I could only see 1 seller around the time of the sales and they don't seem to be involved with either of these sales. Maybe I just didn't check properly, idk. But that buyout was for 450 keys so the buyouts are probably worth looking into.
For sale 1: the crones was updated to 98. the company man sold:
Scorching dino + ~80 in adds
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198142721484#!/compare/1618531200/1618876800
The dino has no mini but that'd likely be close to its buyout of 300. Given how it lacks a mini I guess it may become relevant what you paid for the company man.
I'll see if there is more on the other hats from sale 2 that have more sales. I suppose the lucha is fine to use as-is; the muffs were updated to 163.
Alright the chullo has really discrepant sales:
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198119624879#!/compare/1617235200/1617321600 This'll be ~230
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198162694090#!/compare/1619395200/1619481600 This'll probably be ~350
The caribou has no usable sales from the looks of it
the wrap sold for a bunch of unpriced stuff here
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198211858204#!/compare/1618185600/1618272000
I've also noticed that many items from sale 2 move back and forth between you and Riddim; what's going on with those?
Hello, Riddim is a friend of mine. We exchanged a few items prior, but I would not count those sales since other stuff was exchanged outside of those trades.
But then if the items were basically shared, I would not really consider the woodsman exchange a sale either, for the same reason. Since many of its constituents do not seem to be properly appraisable I suppose it's best not to rely on that exchange as a whole, then.
What sale 1 ends up at relies on the misty company man, for which your purchase may be relevant - what did you buy that for?
I purchased the Misty Skull Company Man for buy orders via cash PayPal.
And how much was that? The problem here is that normally we'd wait for more sales on these, but it is clear that even at buyers values, the sale would induce a raise. This leaves us with one of two options: Either it gets the update, taking the non-doable hats at their buyers values, or leave it outdated until the item(s) in question resell. The first option is possible here since as said, even at those values, it will raise, so an argument can be made that it will be better than current. Based on the value the company man was relisted at, it will also be clear that the real value is not going to be too much higher, which limits the margin of error.
Based on how much the purchase was, it could either get a range based on that sale and the dino sale, or it could use the dino sale alone (which would also require buyers to price it - it would be put at ~287 then (+- 1 key for that taunt which is unpriced but has buyers and sellers very close to each other; its always best to find sales on it, but at this value the difference is going to be negligible anyway).
In the second case, this would be 287 + 98 + 30 = 415, which you could then resuggest at.
I purchased the Misty Skull for only $300 USD via E-Transfer I believe.. I'm okay to wait until further sales happen for the items, since I'd like to see the hat get a fair range.
ah, yeah $300 will not be a realistic approximation, if updating now you could then go by the values mentioned above. Its also definitely fine to wait for more sales; in that case, this suggestion would need to be closed, and it can be remade once new sales happen on either the woodsman itself, or the company man (or the scorching dino).
Okay no worries, I'll keep an eye on the sales till then. Thanks again for the follow up :-) Have an awesome day/night!