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Unusual Large Luchador Searing Plasma
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*re-suggesting cause I missed a couple trades, thanks aj for the insight*


Gladiator stats:

https://gladiator.tf/sales?item=Searing%20Plasma%20Large%20Luchadore


Link of timestamp at time of suggestion:

https://gladiator.tf/sales?item=Searing%20Plasma%20Large%20Luchadore&at=2021-05-14T23:22:44.812Z


no activity


Marketplace tf:

https://marketplace.tf/browse/all?sterm=large+luchadore


cannot find any listings


Mannco:

https://mannco.store/?a=&b=&c=&d=&e=large%20luchadore&f=DESC&g=&h=2&j=1


cannot find any listings


- Item 1 -

https://backpack.tf/item/421569324


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198045278633#!/compare/1611878400/1612224000

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199124965533#!/compare/1612051200/1612483200 // seller


untraceable in buyers bp, sellers is a little unclear, so I reached out to buyer to confirm it was 85 Keys.


steam chat:

https://imgur.com/a/ER25cmn


*adding notes from aj on previous suggestion*


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199124965533#!/compare/1612051200/1612483200


The histories match on the 85 keys entering so that's fine


Sales here:

https://backpack.tf/item/3020727939


1


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198080250669#!/compare/1616544000/1616630400

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197994783413#!/compare/1616457600/1616544000


Sold for 85 keys


2


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197994783413#!/compare/1620518400/1620604800

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197973696367#!/compare/1620518400/1620604800


47 keys


VFB + Putrescent The Heavy-Weight Champ #42


Sunbeams Aztec Aggressor


These all match, should confirm the sale here


What is odd to me is that the seller was listed at 250 keys just before selling:

https://gladiator.tf/listings/6098fcee67b2f76bb0ec07a9


But has been at 150 keys since Apr 20th:

https://gladiator.tf/listings/607e6b898ec89f3028976dff

https://gladiator.tf/listings/60863e64a4407e4fd539d2ed

https://gladiator.tf/listings/608eee1aec88ed36c40e2531

https://gladiator.tf/listings/6095c0e8981cc58afb9b1d1a - couple days before the trade


So really, buyout is 150 keys here


(They were also listed lower when they first traded for the item but I'm sort of excluding those since that is almost 2 months ago now plus there was a consistent buyer at 100 keys in the above snapshots)


Aztec needs to be minied if it was involved which histories indicate it was. With luck, this sale could cap at 85 - 150 keys would be the move.


Edit:

https://backpack.tf/suggestion/609f231265dd3313a8360fa5 - The Aztec came out to 109 keys, so this does cap at 150 keys pretty comfortably.


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Sooo ya looks like 85-150 Keys is a better range. Two of the trades happened at 85 Keys, making it a solid mini for this item.


Going with 85-150

    It was a Sunbeams Aztec Aggressor + 47 keys + VFB + Putrescent The Heavy-Weight Champ #42 + Pro KS Aussie Minigun

      https://imgur.com/jXmKdJ0 Here's the screenshot. So your range should be much higher than 85-150

        Hmmmm ok good to know thanks. I'll have to ask in discord then what the best course of action is. I'll leave this up incase a mod sees it or anybody else has some insight.


        Also what? how? Friend of mine got this lucha like 2 months ago for 85 keys and I was going to buy the next listed for 90 but ran out of keys. Never again not buying a misc when I have the keys

          As I explained previously, you were listed at 150 keys for more than 2 weeks. You raised to 250 keys just before making the trade.


          I don't see why 250 keys should by your buyout here if you couldn't see for 150 keys after 2 weeks. Your sale caps at 150 keys.

            You referring to the guy I bought it from. He had it listed for 150 for awhile, I offered on it a couple of times in the 160-170ish in unusuals and then he bumped the b/o to 250. That's when i restructured my offer to be a little closer. I'm not looking for it to be priced at 250. I'm just saying the price range needs to be expanded because you can't price it from 85-150 based on two sales, and the second sale was in fact much more than 150, closer to 200, because you left my Aussie Pro Ks minigun completely out of the equation.

              Apologies, crexen was listed at 150 keys for a very long time. The fact that he bumped it up to 250 keys just before his sale, I personally don't think it's enough evidence to suggest that 250 keys was his buyout. If someone offered him 150 keys pure whilst you were offering 160/170 ish in unusuals, he would have taken it.


              I ignored the aussie minigun because the sale already comfortably capped at 150 keys with just the pure and the beams aztec. Given it's an item offer, I'm a lot more inclined to cap more generously.


              Of course, wait for a mod comment to let you know what's more correct since it's not my call to make.

                Ya definitely wait for a mod on this one. I really appreciate both your insights.

        First offer i got for the luchadore and declined was selling for pure only.

        https://imgur.com/gallery/Mr4BqmX

          Seeing how this was listed at 150 for the majority of the time, I would be inclined to cap at 150.


          The alternative here would be to simply leave it outdated, as without the cap, that would be well over twice the other sale, meaning the current data points are too discrepant. The buyout cap keeps the range within its acceptable threshold. As such, either accepting as is or leaving this outdated would both be options. I'll run this by the other mods as well.

            After discussion, we've decided to accept this as is.