Looks like there's some spiking or smth else going on cause one of the said item was dumped to an skins bot for 71k (https://imgur.com/a/BhFxd6N) , this item was later put up on scm and sold on 6th Dec, Or maybe some one the sale on 5th Oct was for a post like spelled one and other sale was based off of it but not sure
I got mine through a tradeup I did, didn't buy it from scm. I wouldn't call it dumping, 71 already seems very high to me, considering other FN Rainbow prices
Let me provide some context for the 71keys buy order
This is quoting Dzaster (who owns the bot "Mandalorian⚡[24/7] B>WarPaints" to which the said 71key item was sold)
quoting dzaster
"the last sale here is probably a spelled item right?
"Just realised my bot took that sale into account and bought 1 for 71 keys rip"
"i had fixed the script to avoid such things but forgot to update it for the bot 😦"
Bot or the bot owner had no intention to buy at 71 keys , it was an script bug. That clears out why Heidecker sold the said flame thrower to the bot cause 71Keys for real was an really good price for the item seeing it's previous sales on scm and buy orders of other bots like Xadadada and Rubi were not affected due to absence of the said script bug. From what I understand from the situation someone bought an Flame Thrower off of scm for an absurd price (possibly to money transfer or to spike/manipulate the item's price) which resulted in Dzaster's bot placing an absurdly high buy order of 71k which led to Heidecker who traded upto one flame thrower , selling his traded up item to the bot , The bot owner realised his script has an bug and immediately put his item up on scm which was bought from there on 6th December. I personally don't think this should be priced at 110-130k cause the buy at 71k from the bot was an script bug and the sale on 6th december (of the item that the bot received) was maybe to another market botter who's script potentially bought the item but yea lets see how price mods tackle this situation
And considering there were 2 (unsold for a while) pro ks sellers at ~100 keys until yesterday I would say that your suggested price is a bit high anyway.
Hey, thanks for info! But I believe if item was qsold via buy order on bp (especially to qbuy bot) it should not be considered as accurate price
That might be the case, but considering that there were listings for Pro KS versions of the item at 100 keys that didn't sell, I would also not consider your suggested price to be accuate. I wouldn't really call my sale a quicksell considering that buy order was over 3x the other buy orders and only ~25% under Pro Ks sellers.
Ok, so let me summarize
For now we have 3 sales at 130 keys and 110 keys on scm and 71 keys sale to a quickbuy bot
I could not find any other sale at any considerable range
I don't see any real evidence against suggested price:
* sellers at 100 keys gone/sold (which is ok) but since we don't have much info it should not affect price suggestion
* the fact that bot had high buy order (and accepted sale) actually supports necessary raise but not counters it
* spells seems to be removed from in-game items circulation right with Tough Break update and no spelled Tough Break flame throwers exist by far, so let's exclude spells from discussion
* sell orders for another items of same grade/collection could not affect price for completely separate item
Anyway let's wait till mods decision
Not saying your sales are invalid or anything and it's obvious that it needs a raise but it just doesn't seem right to raise this to 120 keys when people were not able to sell pro ks versions at 100 keys for a while (coincidentally those sellers disappear shortly before/after the suggestions was made). But let's see what mods do.
Heh, good thing I got mine from an auction for 45~ keys with a killstreak back then. I don’t think it meets the requirements to be used as reference though, it was 4 months ago
Cool Anodized Aloha War Paint (Field-Tested) (seller at 32 atm) + 17 keys, ~49 total
We have sales at 16, 49, 71, 110 and 130. If we are making a range here it would be 49 - 71, but given the circumstances around the 71 I would rather not use it, as it is a sale only occurred due to high outliers. Sales are so spread out that this is best left outdated
2 recent sales at ~110 - 130 keys on scm
https://steamcommunity.com/market/pricehistory/?country=US¤cy=1&appid=440&market_hash_name=Rainbow%20Flame%20Thrower%20(Factory%20New)
Looks like there's some spiking or smth else going on cause one of the said item was dumped to an skins bot for 71k (https://imgur.com/a/BhFxd6N) , this item was later put up on scm and sold on 6th Dec, Or maybe some one the sale on 5th Oct was for a post like spelled one and other sale was based off of it but not sure
I got mine through a tradeup I did, didn't buy it from scm. I wouldn't call it dumping, 71 already seems very high to me, considering other FN Rainbow prices
Let me provide some context for the 71keys buy order
This is quoting Dzaster (who owns the bot "Mandalorian⚡[24/7] B>WarPaints" to which the said 71key item was sold)
quoting dzaster
"the last sale here is probably a spelled item right?
https://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/440/Rainbow%20Flame%20Thrower%20%28Factory%20New%29"
"Just realised my bot took that sale into account and bought 1 for 71 keys rip"
"i had fixed the script to avoid such things but forgot to update it for the bot 😦"
Bot or the bot owner had no intention to buy at 71 keys , it was an script bug. That clears out why Heidecker sold the said flame thrower to the bot cause 71Keys for real was an really good price for the item seeing it's previous sales on scm and buy orders of other bots like Xadadada and Rubi were not affected due to absence of the said script bug. From what I understand from the situation someone bought an Flame Thrower off of scm for an absurd price (possibly to money transfer or to spike/manipulate the item's price) which resulted in Dzaster's bot placing an absurdly high buy order of 71k which led to Heidecker who traded upto one flame thrower , selling his traded up item to the bot , The bot owner realised his script has an bug and immediately put his item up on scm which was bought from there on 6th December. I personally don't think this should be priced at 110-130k cause the buy at 71k from the bot was an script bug and the sale on 6th december (of the item that the bot received) was maybe to another market botter who's script potentially bought the item but yea lets see how price mods tackle this situation
Recently sold one for ~71 pure
The 102 items (71k, 28 ref, 2 rec, 1 scrap) match
https://backpack.tf/item/11012562627
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198271892201#!/compare/1638489600/1638576000
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198963954159#!/compare/1638489600/1638576000
And considering there were 2 (unsold for a while) pro ks sellers at ~100 keys until yesterday I would say that your suggested price is a bit high anyway.
Hey, thanks for info! But I believe if item was qsold via buy order on bp (especially to qbuy bot) it should not be considered as accurate price
That might be the case, but considering that there were listings for Pro KS versions of the item at 100 keys that didn't sell, I would also not consider your suggested price to be accuate. I wouldn't really call my sale a quicksell considering that buy order was over 3x the other buy orders and only ~25% under Pro Ks sellers.
Ok, so let me summarize
For now we have 3 sales at 130 keys and 110 keys on scm and 71 keys sale to a quickbuy bot
I could not find any other sale at any considerable range
I don't see any real evidence against suggested price:
* sellers at 100 keys gone/sold (which is ok) but since we don't have much info it should not affect price suggestion
* the fact that bot had high buy order (and accepted sale) actually supports necessary raise but not counters it
* spells seems to be removed from in-game items circulation right with Tough Break update and no spelled Tough Break flame throwers exist by far, so let's exclude spells from discussion
* sell orders for another items of same grade/collection could not affect price for completely separate item
Anyway let's wait till mods decision
Not saying your sales are invalid or anything and it's obvious that it needs a raise but it just doesn't seem right to raise this to 120 keys when people were not able to sell pro ks versions at 100 keys for a while (coincidentally those sellers disappear shortly before/after the suggestions was made). But let's see what mods do.
Heh, good thing I got mine from an auction for 45~ keys with a killstreak back then. I don’t think it meets the requirements to be used as reference though, it was 4 months ago
https://scrap.tf/auctions/U0QOR4
Couple new sales:
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198152450763#!/compare/1640822400/1640908800
Strange Battery (https://gladiator.tf/listings/61d003f77682a6e0960a198f 12 at time of sale) + ~4 keys
Quite low, possibly incomplete
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198121629812#!/compare/1642032000/1642204800
Cool Anodized Aloha War Paint (Field-Tested) (seller at 32 atm) + 17 keys, ~49 total
We have sales at 16, 49, 71, 110 and 130. If we are making a range here it would be 49 - 71, but given the circumstances around the 71 I would rather not use it, as it is a sale only occurred due to high outliers. Sales are so spread out that this is best left outdated