Suggestion: Frostbite Defiant Spartan at 220 keys

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~200 keys

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1 of 2 and other one hasnt moved in years -> https://backpack.tf/item/4136421459

my sale

190 keys + 30 key deposit for reserving

the 190 keys:

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198093889730#!/compare/1656460800/1656547200

https://imgur.com/a/Ark1yxC

30 keys:

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198116227477#!/compare/1654992000/1655164800

https://imgur.com/a/P7rM33V

suggesting 220 keys

B/O was 200:

https://gladiator.tf/time-machine?item=Frostbite+Defiant+Spartan&at=2022-06-11T21%3A35%3A00.000Z

The 30 key deposit should be treated as a reservation fee, in which case the sale should still be capped. Another example here:

https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5f6e0f260617ed2f81170b56

i had only 30 keys at the time, he said its ok if i give him 30 then and the rest in a few days when i got paid

he also had another offer for 210 and told me i had to pay more if i wanted it

I mean, it was listed at 200 for one and a half months:

https://gladiator.tf/time-machine?item=Frostbite+Defiant+Spartan&at=2022-04-28T00%3A19%3A00.000Z

If it had sold for 220 right away then the B/O could be overlooked, but this is not the case. 200 is what the seller would have taken at the time and the rest of keys were part of the reservation fee, so this should be 200 flat.

I shouldnt be penalized for not having keys in that second to pay 220.

This is a span of less than 2 weeks.

This isnt an item that has many sales.

How do you know the seller would have taken 200 at the time i bought it? my sale was months after he listed at 200. I have overpayed in items and in pure for just about all of my defiants because of the market.

In fact quite opposite. The seller did not want to take 200 when i offered 200, he said its the only one on the market and raised his price according to the other offer he got at 210 key

the 200 key b/o you are thinking of was listed 4/27/2022 which is months before i bought it on 6/29/2022.

so [if] the 30 keys is treated as a reserve in your example then why did i pay him 190 keys after and not 200

most common reserves are 10% which would have been 20 keys not 30. while i know reserves can be any price agreed to, why would mine be 30 keys and then pay less than his buy out?

we had agreed to 220 keys and not 200 and did not agree to a reserve, if i could have paid 200 i wouldnt have paid 220

so either i paid 190 keys+reserve which 190 is less than 200, or we agreed to 220. how can 190 be his buy out?

the proof you are using is from 2 years ago

my sale is the latest and only sale for frostbite defiant. its been another 2 months since i suggested and no sales since i bought it. the price hasnt been updated in 5 years. why wait another 2 months.

i can tell you right now there is 0 possibility i would sell for 200. or even 220. makes no sense to take the lower value because he didnt sell it months before i bought it.

he had an offer of 210 already

Sorry for the delay, been busy IRL. Few things:

- The 200 listing was removed two days approx. before you sent the first 30 keys (June 12th vs June 14th), the April listing was just to show it had been unsold since then.

https://gladiator.tf/time-machine?item=Frostbite+Defiant+Spartan&at=2022-06-12T21%3A19%3A00.000Z --- latest listing I could find

So that's the pure amount the seller should have taken for it. If a hat was listed for 200 keys for a long time then it's fair to say it cannot be valued above that number.

- If I understood correctly, you say the seller rejected 200 but you didn't have all the keys when you offered 200. You had to pay an extra amount (20 keys above the buyout) for the seller to agree to sell it to you a few days later. That "extra" amount is pretty much like a fee, so it shouldn't be taken into account while pricing the hat.

- You say the seller had an offer of 210 keys but there's no evidence for it. There's no way to tell if the offer was real or not, or if whoever offered 210 actually had the keys.

- The Spellbound Slick Cut example I posted above was to show you a suggestion where the same pure-sale-capped-at-B/O reasoning was applied, doesn't matter it happened 2 years ago. There are probably more recent examples but I just can't remember them all.

You should resuggest at 200 flat. Since it's a resuggestion it won't be left open for a month again.

ok, i understand. its unfortunate that i have to do this but i guess since i wont sell it, the other 20 keys wont matter