Suggestion: Burning Flames Polar Pullover at 8600 keys

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~10000 keys

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2 Sales of the Burning Flames Polar Pullover

Trade: 1

16 June 2022

Orangezest ➔ Zenzile

Trade: https://imgur.com/ufPSUcW

Pans @3000 keys during trade

Maxes @ 28.7 keys during trade

Gpans (3000x2 = 6000) + 10 maxes (28.7x10 = 287) + 2315 keys = 8602, rounding to 8600

Trade: 2

25 June 2022

Your Severance Package ➔ MIKECHAD

Backpack Compare Links - https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198927172159#!/compare/1656115200/1656201600

Backpack Compare Links - https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198023029786#!/compare/1653955200/1656201600

Morning Glory Polar Pullover + Spellbound Towering Pillar of Hats + Vivid Plasma Virtual Viewfinder ⇆ Burning Flames Polar Pullover + Pumpkin Moon Twisted Topper (125 Key Sweet)

All of the items are outdated.

Vivid Plasma Virtual Viewfinder - Owned the double spelled viewfinder for a while. Would be nice if history's on items didn't suddenly vanish. Valued it at 6500 Keys in the trade what can I do, it's super niche with the matching double spells. Even if you don't agree with that value of the item it's not moving anytime soon for anything less.

Two Sale of Normal Unspelled Viewfinders

Trade: 1

25 July 22

Desklamp ➔ Punch

Trade 1: https://imgur.com/a/FcXO9jC

1200 Keys

Trade: 2

12 August 22

SoggyCow ➔ Punch

Backpack Compare Links - https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198152373135#!/compare/1660262400/1660348800

Backpack Compare Links - https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197960533774#!/compare/1660089600/1660435200

Spellbound Galvanized Gibus ⇌ Spellbound FR-0 + Vivid Plasma Virtual Viewfinder

Spellbound Gibus is Outdated

Mini / Support - https://backpack.tf/suggestion/627519c2882c7b424a556401

Evaluation of the Gibus is 1300 Pure Keys

Spellbound FR-0 is Outdated

Priced at 183 keys over 2 years ago. Not to mention it's 1/1 and hasn't moved sense the history's got wiped.

Mini / Support - https://backpack.tf/classifieds?item=FR-0&quality=5&tradable=1&craftable=1&australium=-1&particle=74&killstreak_tier=0

Those being the only 2 recent trades of the Vivid Plasma Virtual Viewfinder both bought buy the same person.

Giving the Viewfinder a rough range of 1200 Keys - 2000 Keys

Morning Glory Polar Pullover -

31 May 22

DJ Kush ➔ MIKECHAD

Trade 1: https://imgur.com/wGrxYFr

Backpack Compare Links - https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198927172159#!/compare/1653868800/1653955200

Massive Trade and many outdated items

Screaming Tiger Taunt: The High Five! - Outdated - 10 Keys

Phosphorous Galvanized Gibus - 247 Keys

Green Black Hole Bot Dogger - Outdated - 9 Months Old Price - 276 Keys

Terror-Watt Broadband Bonnet - Niche Double Spelled Robo Hat - Priced At 100 Keys

Energy Orb Specialized Killstreak Backwoods Boomstick Shotgun (Field-Tested) - 380 Keys

Strange Energy Orb Professional Killstreak Woodsy Widowmaker SMG (Minimal Wear) - Outdated - 400 Keys

Strange Hot Totally Boned War Paint (Factory New) - Outdated - 2 Year Old Price - 302 Keys

Ghastly Ghosts Jr Shellmet - Outdated - 1 Year Old Price - 120 Keys

Seller - https://backpack.tf/classifieds?item=Shellmet&quality=5&tradable=1&craftable=1&australium=-1&particle=85&killstreak_tier=0

Seller At 440 Keys

Flaming Lantern Nasty Norsemann - Outdated - 10 Month Old Price - 120 Keys

Seller - https://backpack.tf/classifieds?item=Nasty%20Norsemann&quality=5&tradable=1&craftable=1&australium=-1&particle=37&killstreak_tier=0

Seller At 440 Keys

Arctic Aurora Taunt: Mannrobics - Outdated - 2 Year Old Price - Priced at 28

Seller - https://backpack.tf/classifieds?item=Taunt:%20Mannrobics&quality=5&tradable=1&craftable=1&australium=-1&particle=3033&killstreak_tier=0

Sellers at 50 Keys. Buyers at 27 Keys.

Cool Skull Cracked War Paint (Field-Tested) - Unpriced

Sale on SCM - https://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/440/Unusual%20Skull%20Cracked%20War%20Paint%20%28Field-Tested%29

Keys on SCM - https://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/440/Mann%20Co.%20Supply%20Crate%20Key

Sale 1 - 71.22 - Aug 07

Sale 2 - 90.02 - Aug 03

Sale 3 - 70.21 - July 09

Sale 4 - 70.21 - July 09

Sale 5 - 55.00 - April 02

Key Price - 2.22

Average Price of Warpaint In the Relevant time Period - $70 / 32 Keys

Cool Hazard Warning Revolver (Minimal Wear) - Unpriced

Sale on SCM - https://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/440/Unusual%20Hazard%20Warning%20Revolver%20%28Minimal%20Wear%29

Sale 1 - 54.41 May 09

Key Price 2.22

25 Keys Roughly

Hellish Inferno Taunt: Yeti Smash - Outdated - 3 Year Old Price - 17 - 18 Keys

Sellers / Buyers - https://backpack.tf/classifieds?item=Taunt:%20Yeti%20Smash&quality=5&tradable=1&craftable=1&australium=-1&particle=3013&killstreak_tier=0

Sellers - 33 Keys Bots - 14 Keys

Massed Flies Bear Necessities - Outdated - 3 Year Old Price - 40 keys

Classifieds - https://backpack.tf/stats/Unusual/Bear%20Necessities/Tradable/Craftable/12

Not For Sale. Bots Buy At 25 Keys Roughly

White Lightning Vampire Vanquisher - Outdated - 2 Year Old Price - 21 Keys

Classifieds - https://backpack.tf/classifieds?item=Vampire%20Vanquisher&quality=5&tradable=1&craftable=1&australium=-1&particle=119&killstreak_tier=0

Sellers at 31 Keys - Bots Buy At 26 Keys

Fifth Dimension Universal Translator - 230 Keys

Terror-Watt Optic Nerve - Unpriced

Classifieds - https://backpack.tf/classifieds?item=Optic%20Nerve&quality=5&tradable=1&craftable=1&australium=-1&particle=57&killstreak_tier=0

Bot Buy At 14 Keys

Electrostatic Stainless Pot - 24-27 Keys

Totaling the Trade To Be Roughly - 2393 Keys

Mini / Support - https://backpack.tf/suggestion/62576c28aece785900080b9d

Evaluation of the Pullover is 1750 Pure Keys

Spellbound Towering Pillar of Hats - 2 Years Outdated - 1 Year Old Failed Price Suggestion - https://backpack.tf/suggestion/6153f887ab333024b8398f3a

New Price Proposed - 620 Keys

The evaluations of the items in the trade were gathered and calculated to be at the time.

The Vivid Plasma Virtual Viewfinder Double Spelled Valued At 6500 Keys. Spellbound Towering Pillar of Hats Valued At 2500 Keys. Morning Glory Polar Pullover Valued At 2500 Keys

Totaling to be 11,500 In Agreed upon items to complete the deal. Minus his twisted topper sweet = 11375

But In regards to creating a price suggestion with proof and evidence the sale of the burning flames pullover between, Your Severance Package ➔ MIKECHAD. The Following is the Combined Prices of the Confirmed Price Sales of the Items.

Vivid Plasma Virtual Viewfinder - 1200 - 2000 Keys

Spellbound Towering Pillar of Hats - 620 Keys

Morning Glory Polar Pullover - 1750 - 2393 Keys

Low End - 3570 Keys

High End - 5013 Keys

Oh boi, fourth time's the charm. Hope it goes through...

Yes please, I wanna see my vote power spike :D

Credit To Lucyfer for all of Orange's Sale. "Trade : 1"

Upvote! This is very thorough. Well done 👍

Apologies for the long delay in handling this.

The Morning Glory Pullover mini is insufficient. The "2393" sale included for it will not be usable for several reasons.

1) The Bot Dogger has a usable sale from before this suggestion was made.

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198063640894#!/compare/1660262400/1660521600

2) There's absolutely no basis for the 100 Key valuation for the double-spelled Broadband Bonnet. BONES had it listed for 88 Keys before including it in the trade for the Pullover. If there aren't any sales for it, it needs to be valued at its baseline price without the spells.

https://gladiator.tf/time-machine?item=Terror-Watt+Broadband+Bonnet&at=2022-05-31T07%3A18%3A00.000Z

3 + 4) The SMG and Totally Boned paint are very outdated with no other sales and are worth a large portion of the trade.

Sales with items like these shouldn't be used.

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As for the 1750 sale, it was high when it occurred as evidenced by the comments in the suggestion linked here.

That said, the 3 lower sales were on 1/21, 2/14, and 2/28 whereas the sale for 1750 Keys was on 4/5 and the C9 VVF + G. Fetti Polar sale was on 5/3.

There was another Morning Glory Pullover sale around when this suggestion was made, but it can't be used as detailed below.

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198160062501#!/compare/1661212800/1661385600 - Hellfire Tough Stuff Muffs + 55 Keys

The Muffs have the following sales:

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198063640894#!/compare/1659312000/1659484800 - SBTWC Halogen + Burning BoA + Mallard Sensei + HPJr Brigade + Logo Milkman + Orb. Fire Tyrannus + ~300 Keys (the exact amount needs confirmation)

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198063640894#!/compare/1659916800/1660089600 - Secret Salty + Icefall Blast + Arcana Leadwear + PE Prehistoric + 100 Keys

The Halogen and Soldered have no other sales and the Salty Dog has no usable mini as detailed in its suggestion, so neither sale can be used.

https://backpack.tf/suggestion/634a8576fcbba206f301a2e6 - The Salty Dog suggestion

The Salty sale is 1800+, but the Halogen sale could be anywhere from 1200 - 2000 looking at buy and sell orders (the Brigade sold for 215 recently).

I can't find any C9 VVF sales to give the Morning Glory Pullover a second usable sale, but it + the Muffs sale + 1750 were the 3 sales most recent to when this suggestion was made and are all considerably higher than the 3 older sales linked in the Morning Glory Pullover's suggestion.

That would support taking 1750 flat for the Morning Glory Pullover

https://gladiator.tf/time-machine?item=Morning+Glory+Polar+Pullover&at=2022-05-03T14%3A40%3A00.000Z - It can't be more than 2000 for when it sold

There are several more problems with the Viewfinder mini.

I don't see where 2000 was pulled from for the Viewfinder when the two sales mentioned here for it are 1200 and 1300 minus the FR-0.

Regardless, 1300 won't work for the Gibus. Not only was the suggestion linked for the Gibus 1350, the suggestion wasn't correct.

Since the FR-0 doesn't have any usable sales and counts for a large portion of the trade's value, that sale shouldn't be included in the Viewfinder mini as I mentioned in my notes about the Morning Glory Polar. 1200 flat will work for the Viewfinder's price.

The Pillar has no other sales, but it's currently for sale for ~4400 Keys

https://marketplace.tf/items/tf2/135;5;u74

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/146449414360268801/1046331296005226536/image.png

https://gladiator.tf/time-machine?item=Spellbound+Towering+Pillar+of+Hats&at=2022-11-07T07%3A23%3A00.000Z - It was previously listed for 3800 Keys

https://gladiator.tf/time-machine?item=Spellbound+Towering+Pillar+of+Hats&at=2022-08-14T06%3A59%3A00.000Z - And 2900 Keys

That'd make the Burning Polar sale realistically at most 2900 + 1750 + 1200 - 130 = 5720 Keys

However, because it can't actually get a mini for the Pillar, that sale shouldn't be used here.

As such, this will unfortunately have to be left outdated. While the raise is certainly needed, 8200 flat is far too high, and there's no usable value for the lower sale.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15HTd4Um1m4 - very sorry for waiting 5 months.

"Trade: 2" states, "All of the items are outdated." There for I didn't use the sale in the final pricing of the pullover. The double spelled viewfinder is extremely niche and will only move if the seller decided to trade it, it can't be compared to non-spelled versions. The morning glory pullover has price suggestions that continually get closed and an increase in price with each new suggestion. The Pillar has had no sales, it doesn't matter what it's for sale at. Only what it sells for.

There is only one very clear sale.

Trade: 1 is flat pure trade of, Gpans (3000x2 = 6000) + 10 maxes (28.7x10 = 287) + 2315 keys = 8602, rounding to 8600.

Trade: 2 and the items involved were valued at the time as follows: The Vivid Plasma Virtual Viewfinder Double Spelled Valued At 6500 Keys. Spellbound Towering Pillar of Hats Valued At 2500 Keys. Morning Glory Polar Pullover Valued At 2500 Keys

Totaling to be 11,500 In Agreed upon items to complete the deal. Minus his twisted topper sweet = 11375.

Therefore "Trade: 2" is rather unusable to determine the sale of the burning pullover. Just deal with the flat pure sale. Trade: 1

I know only trade 1 was used here. My comment was meant to point out that the provided valuations for the items in trade 2 were wrong and quite high.

Since the actual value of trade 2 will be much less than trade 1, even if trade 2 can't be used here, a flat price at 8600 will be too high.

Closing due to lack of response.