Your "a new one popped up on sold" is below buy orders
Also your mptf sales is outliner , 0.97Keys = ~84refs, sellers at ~70
Is it still an outlier if there's 9 of them in the past month??
Your suggestion has 10 bot purchases of the item. I dont think its fair to brush it off as outliers when theres just as many person-to-person sales as there were bot-purchased [quicksales].
Keys are trading at ~76 ref with outdated current price at 87 ref. So those 0.97 key sales can be interpreted as ~72-84 ref. In line with current sell orders from bots.
Also the one sale is below buy orders right now, but I was the purchaser and it was equal to the highest buy order the moment I purchased it IIRC. I don't know if you meant to, but you reply feels condescending. I'm just trying to be helpful to the suggestion and keep the range accurate. It's nothing against you or your suggestion.
Why you thinking bot-purchase is quicksells?
You should take not current key price, you should take price suggstion key price*
None of the sales below buy orders rn.
Ok?
So do the 9 recent mptf sales still count as "outliers" compared to the 10 bot purchases? I completely disagree with you on trying to dismiss these. I know your good at suggestions but maybe this one needs an update on the range considering that they directly contradict range you get using exclusively bot-purchases (bids).
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> Why you thinking bot-purchase is quicksells?
low volume collectors item, people want to get rid of it and will use the bot prices despite major spread between bid-ask.
> You should take not current key price, you should take price suggstion key price*
Ok. You seem to really like price suggestions so I'll take your word for how to do these.
> None of the sales below buy orders rn.
what? Lowest buy order is 36.66 so the 36.22 x2 in the suggestion is below that. So is the sole bot-sale that was 34.33 refined. At the time of me purchasing the item from the bot, the lowest bot buy order (bid) was about the same as this bot ask order of 34.33 ref
Mptf sale often overvalued. if we take your mptf price 0.97x87 it will be ~84refs. sellers at 77refs.
This sales valid proof for price range. even if it was quicksell,for non-unusuals items its valid .sometime bots paying much more than other and this sale can valid.
Lowest buy order is 36.66, my low end in price sugg 38refs cuz other sales below buy orders. i didnt use 36.22 in this range
"Mptf sale often overvalued." bad take when there is as much volume there as on bptf, it's not just outliers - these are the sales.
You insisting on using outdated suggestion prices puts it above sell orders, if we use real-time market price of 76ref - it falls under buy orders. Thats just obsessing over a technicality.
These sell orders are being matched by 9 separate sales on mptf. They are often overpriced because the 10% commission, but even if you arbitrarily remove that - they still make sense.
bro im so tired.
Now sellers at 70refs, 76x0.97 =73refs
they overpriced not from comission. dont want say why on public cuz it will be rude
because buyers are too lazy/uninformed to use bptf?
Past 30 days
2 @ 36.22 ref
1 @ 38 ref
1 @ 39.33 ref
3 @ 39.44 ref
1 @ 40.44 ref
2 @ 40.55 ref
https://gladiator.tf/sales?item=Non-Craftable%20Indubitably%20Green&at=2023-04-25T18:15:31.340Z
those are all in the bought column. a new one popped up on sold (34.33 ref).
Also marketplace.tf had 8 sales in the past 10 days for $1.99 (1.99/2.05)=0.97 keys
If looking at past 30 days, one more sale was for $1.6 on mptf.
https://marketplace.tf/items/tf2/5027;6;uncraftable
Your "a new one popped up on sold" is below buy orders
Also your mptf sales is outliner , 0.97Keys = ~84refs, sellers at ~70
Is it still an outlier if there's 9 of them in the past month??
Your suggestion has 10 bot purchases of the item. I dont think its fair to brush it off as outliers when theres just as many person-to-person sales as there were bot-purchased [quicksales].
Keys are trading at ~76 ref with outdated current price at 87 ref. So those 0.97 key sales can be interpreted as ~72-84 ref. In line with current sell orders from bots.
Also the one sale is below buy orders right now, but I was the purchaser and it was equal to the highest buy order the moment I purchased it IIRC. I don't know if you meant to, but you reply feels condescending. I'm just trying to be helpful to the suggestion and keep the range accurate. It's nothing against you or your suggestion.
Why you thinking bot-purchase is quicksells?
You should take not current key price, you should take price suggstion key price*
None of the sales below buy orders rn.
Ok?
So do the 9 recent mptf sales still count as "outliers" compared to the 10 bot purchases? I completely disagree with you on trying to dismiss these. I know your good at suggestions but maybe this one needs an update on the range considering that they directly contradict range you get using exclusively bot-purchases (bids).
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> Why you thinking bot-purchase is quicksells?
low volume collectors item, people want to get rid of it and will use the bot prices despite major spread between bid-ask.
> You should take not current key price, you should take price suggstion key price*
Ok. You seem to really like price suggestions so I'll take your word for how to do these.
> None of the sales below buy orders rn.
what? Lowest buy order is 36.66 so the 36.22 x2 in the suggestion is below that. So is the sole bot-sale that was 34.33 refined. At the time of me purchasing the item from the bot, the lowest bot buy order (bid) was about the same as this bot ask order of 34.33 ref
Mptf sale often overvalued. if we take your mptf price 0.97x87 it will be ~84refs. sellers at 77refs.
This sales valid proof for price range. even if it was quicksell,for non-unusuals items its valid .sometime bots paying much more than other and this sale can valid.
Lowest buy order is 36.66, my low end in price sugg 38refs cuz other sales below buy orders. i didnt use 36.22 in this range
"Mptf sale often overvalued." bad take when there is as much volume there as on bptf, it's not just outliers - these are the sales.
You insisting on using outdated suggestion prices puts it above sell orders, if we use real-time market price of 76ref - it falls under buy orders. Thats just obsessing over a technicality.
These sell orders are being matched by 9 separate sales on mptf. They are often overpriced because the 10% commission, but even if you arbitrarily remove that - they still make sense.
bro im so tired.
Now sellers at 70refs, 76x0.97 =73refs
they overpriced not from comission. dont want say why on public cuz it will be rude
because buyers are too lazy/uninformed to use bptf?
no idea what drives them
https://gladiator.tf/time-machine?item=Pumpkin+Moon+Bone+Cone&at=2023-01-01T06%3A37%3A00.000Z
https://marketplace.tf/items/tf2/31218;5;u201
i just leave it here
and gradually the bots scramble to the range due to low liquidity. Now the mptf sales are looking more outlier-y