Suggestion: Morning Glory Napoleon Complex at 70–84 keys

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~60.5 keys

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1 Strange MG NC sold 2023/10/02

Price: 84 keys

https://imgur.com/OF0EIXk

https://imgur.com/MqMDnHM

First sale I could find in a while, normal and strange price appart by around 10k realistically

There's nothing we can do...

why range, is there strangefier for this hat no? if u price strange price the strange variant

There is a strangefier, only 3 on the market left and it's pretty damn expencive, around $50 usd. I added the 10 key range (half of the strangefiers price) kind of like paint prices on items being valued 50%. So if a strange sold for 84k then a normal would be 74k, I just pinned it at 70-84k as it's the first sale in a while and having a small range extending lower is usually a better call.

this isnt how it works. please read the rules.

I read the rules, ain't reading them again. Would you care to explain what rule you think I'm not following? This is a pretty logical pricing. Also I'm pricing the normal and not the strange because the strange unusual price page is basically non-existant. That why I added the lower range, for the normal MG NCs.

@sf right, you can't create distance from one price category

Again, I have to put the range here. There is no such thing as a bp.tf page where I can recommend the new price for a strange MG NC. If there is then link it to my, but you won't be able to, because it doesn't physically exist. I used logic and thinking to add the range. It consists of 50% of the strangefiers price added onto the new actual price. So the sale was 84k for the S MG NC, the strangefiers price is 20k, so a normal MG NC should be around 74k

Like literally, link me the bp.tf price page for the strange MG NC where I can recommend the new price. You won't be able to because it literally doesn't exist

https://backpack.tf/help/suggestions

Can't have a range with a single sale.

Please remember that common trade points are defined by completed sales - not buyers or sellers.

I have the sale proof, the issue is there literally isn't a page for the pricing of a strange MG NC. It doesn't exist, so for the price change to occur i have to post it on the normal MG NC

More information:

https://forums.backpack.tf/topic/6033-rules-for-unusual-price-suggestions/

Or just ask for help on discord.

I know the rules, this area isn't covered by them because bp.tf literally doesn't have the page for recommending strange unusual prices. Link it to me if you think I'm wrong. The suggestion price makes sense.

The NC strangefier = 20k

The sale of the S. MG NC = 84k

Normal MG NC + 50% of the strangefier price(10k) should give 84k

Normal MG NC = 74k

Try collecting more evidence here:

https://marketplace.tf/?r=76561198045802942

SCM

otherwise, there will be insufficient evidence to support your suggestion

What am I supposed to do or research on marketplace lol

This is what the prices of all items are based on.

You're also missing out on other sales:

"https://backpack.tf/help/suggestions: Evidence must not be cherry-picked."

item2:

https://backpack.tf/item/10917853032

sale1:

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198047735676#!/compare/1692230400/1693958400

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198043858325#!/compare/1692230400/1693267200

47 keys

keys id: https://backpack.tf/item/13083591173

https://gladiator.tf/time-machine?item=Morning+Glory+Napoleon+Complex&at=2023-08-18T23%3A41%3A00.000Z

According to the rules, you cannot suggest strangefiers strange hats. Because it will cause a lot of controversy.

"Pricing of Strange Unusuals

This does NOT apply to items with strangifiers (veils, ground controls, laws, etc.). Here is a list of strangifiers: https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Strangifier#Possible_variants"

Seller 2 @ 74 keys 3 m unsold, 84 keys sale is outlier, invalid, It should be suggest 47 keys flat here.

Okay damn that's good evidence, I don't use gladiator, touche Bentry.

But I missed that you can't price unusuals with strangefiers, why is that even a thing??

Hats with Strangifiers can only be priced non strange iirc, strangifier value is not taken into account. Therefore that sale is an outlier and probably can't be used. Could be wrong but pretty sure that's how it works.

I just saw that strangefiers can't be used for the pricing, but it makes 0 sense, I mean yikes the NC strangefier is around 20keys, I wonder if that's and old rule they never refreshed as the value of them went up over time