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Unusual All Hallows' Hatte Gravelly Ghoul
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upd.


1.219k


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198311498888#!/compare/1703030400/1703116800


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198285371555#!/compare/1702944000/1703116800


2.bulk


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198285371555#!/compare/1703462400/1703548800


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198036241064#!/compare/1703376000/1703548800


3.Scorching Flames Second-Head Headwear(65k) + Eerie Kraken Elf Esteem(15.5k) + Vexed Volcanics Semi-Tame Trapper's Hat (20k) + Dead Man's Party Taunt: Panzer Pants(8k) + Solar Scorched Taunt: Second Rate Sorcery (not useble transactions https://backpack.tf/suggestion/65b93979a1a6364a8603870d, use bo 2.3k) + Subatomic Universal Translator (22.5k) + Cloudy Moon Pugilist's Protector (174k) + 25k - 332k


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198160856661#!/compare/1702512000/1702771200


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198285371555#!/compare/1702598400/1702684800


4.Sold for Strange Scorching Flames Tundra Top (oudate price, can't update use only bulk sales) + Disco Beat Down Plumber's Cap + Emerald Allurement Taunt: The Meet the Medic + Pyroland Nightmare Blast Defense + 3k - exclude


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198119198857#!/compare/1703289600/1703548800


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198285371555#!/compare/1703462400/1703548800


--------------------Mini Dead Man's Party Taunt: Panzer Pants


1.bulk


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198203329842#!/compare/1698969600/1699056000


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198063179541#!/compare/1698969600/1699056000


2.?


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3.bulk


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https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198054965137#!/compare/1700611200/1700697600


4.?


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https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198055421322#!/compare/1700956800/1701043200


5.8k


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199192607141#!/compare/1702166400/1702252800


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198115138201#!/compare/1699142400/1702252800


6.bulk


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198115138201#!/compare/1702598400/1702684800


7.bulk


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198160856661#!/compare/1702512000/1702771200


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------------------------------------------MINI Subatomic Universal Translator


1.21k


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199127652476#!/compare/1705622400/1705708800


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198798977870#!/compare/1705449600/1705622400


2.?


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199394463680#!/compare/1703462400/1703808000


3.?


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https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199185265895#!/compare/1703894400/1703980800


4.?


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199185265895#!/compare/1703980800/1704240000


5.?


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198841279602#!/compare/1705363200/1705449600


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199084784906#!/compare/1705363200/1705449600


6.?


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https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199040346347#!/compare/1700611200/1705104000


7.?


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198327062018#!/compare/1700956800/1701043200


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199416158300#!/compare/1700956800/1701043200


8.?


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https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199026390261#!/compare/1701648000/1701734400


9.?


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https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199059632349#!/compare/1704240000/1704326400


10.?


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198205399529#!/compare/1701734400/1702684800


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198055421322#!/compare/1701734400/1701820800


11.bulk'


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198160856661#!/compare/1702512000/1702771200


12.24k


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198160856661#!/compare/1702771200/1703116800


13.?


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198160849423#!/compare/1703203200/1703376000


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199154955556#!/compare/1678233600/1705449600


14.?


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199128182851#!/compare/1705622400/1705708800


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198837011537#!/compare/1705622400/1706400000


15.?


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199128182851#!/compare/1706400000/1706486400


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199132184792#!/compare/1706400000/1706486400


16.?


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198053901463#!/compare/1704499200/1704585600


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199085116273#!/compare/1704412800/1704499200


17.https://marketplace.tf/items/tf2/30658;5;u93


24.12.2023 - 49.99 / 1.64 = 30.48k - exclude


use 22.5k


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220-330 keys (all credit to Rouzen Zaker :3, but this suggestion adheres to the pricing guidelines and thus in my opinion better represents the hat's value.

    I don't get why you're countering with all of Rouzen's work to satisfy your own personal interpretation of the GUIDELINES


    Now I've already talked to Rouzen about this and his attitude hasn't been amazing but I can sympathise with him for being understandably upset at you straight up taking all his work.


    I would have given you a pass here if you had even done your due diligence with reading through the suggestion and reassessing each sale. However, you clearly just wanted to have one over Rouzen in all this because you haven't even bothered to check if his analysis is correct.


    Even a little bit of effort would have gone a long way here. Just a cursory glance from me and I found an issue with the pricing of the Cloudy Moon Pugilist

    Rouzen calls it 174 keys here - https://backpack.tf/suggestion/65ba137232cc2f7e59065109

    But when he made the suggestion for the Puglist, he mistakenly priced the treasure trove at 145 keys instead of the rounded 146 keys from this suggestion here - https://backpack.tf/suggestion/65b9453c7ba19e9ded0f64a2

    All is also moot because the Treasure Trove Tundra is now indate at 140 keys - https://backpack.tf/suggestion/65d25ee6b35522ac3103d0be

    This values the Pugilist at 171.5 keys or 172.5 keys if you round back there.


    Yeah this is one of the reasons why we round, because it gives us a safety net for the future and prevents clogging up the suggestion feed with constant resuggestions because the prices on the site are guidelines and don't have to be 100% accurate. But rounding too much early in a mini train can often times affect the final value of a sale further down the mini train which would be way too inaccurate.


    Those are my 2 yaps, Rouzen is a more than experienced suggestor (https://backpack.tf/vote?creator=76561198002974658&state=0%2C1%2C2&quality=5 - more than 400 unusual suggestions accepted) and you could've just left a comment or maybe asked a price mod about his ranges instead of straight up taking several hours of work and countering in order to fit your own opinion.

      I did not just "straight up tak[e] all [of] his work", I clearly gave credit and followed the suggester's etiquette post to a tee. I also DID leave a comment about rounding and he explicitly said that he was not going to round, so I countered with what is not just an interpretation, but literally just the black-letter guideline for items of this price range.


      I'm also a bit confused what conclusion you're making about rounding and my suggestion in general. First you strongly imply I do subpar analysis just because I didn't catch what you posit is a mistake in the suggestion, but then tout the importance of deferring to experienced suggesters. Am I not an experienced suggester? One of the best parts about anybody being able to counter is that we can discover a more accurate price, which is exactly what you claim to have done yourself by analyzing my work rather than deferring.


      Second, I never suggested that rounding too early in a mini train was a good thing to do; my rounding reflects a fairly late step in the process of evaluating the price of these hats.


      Frankly, I think that these accusations are a bit disrespectful bordering on libelous considering you seem to be insinuating that I "took" somebody's work when I gave full credit and countered only after it became clear that the original suggester had no interest in my thoughts on a different price. Your other proposed course of action is inevitable too because a price mod will eventually scrutinize the competing suggestion analysis and pick a final price. I will concede that I did counter to fit my own opinion about the use of rounding guidelines, which is another thing I explicitly said in my original suggestion.