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Who do y'all think would win in a fight: Pikachu from Super Smash Bros. Melee or Major Crits from Metro Malice Wave 4 in Team Fortress 2?
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Naw Pikachu got this. Paralysis and true electro damage is an easy W
oh if it's your Pika, I think Major Crits would win >:D
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Major Crits not even close, he will one shot that yellow rat and send them to the shadow realm before he could pronounce the k in his name
Honestly you or your team are low key are trash if you are dying to that guy. If you're heavy you probably need crit + explosive res but anyone else can easily dodge rockets. Engi can do big work with crit cans + widowmaker + dodging rockets; scout can pump critcans and hold aggro while dodging rockets; same story with almost any DPS.
Pikachu is also one of the fastest characters in melee, with a 3-frame jumpsquat and an initial dash + run speed of 1.8. He also has some of the quickest moves in the game- upair frame 3; neutral air frame 3; back air frame 4, and a crazy good recovery. No way in hell he is getting hit. Even if pika does get hit, he could probably survive one crit rocket given he has a weight of 80 and a fall speed of only 1.9, giving him some survivability
The last point I wanted to make is that major crits takes years to reload; pika's upsmash comes out on frame 8 + can be jump cancelled, so he can throw it out while running. While major crits is charging, he could easily throw in a jc upsmash- which btw is also the strongest uncharged upsmash in all of Melee
i solo queue most of the time so i am at the mercy of valves match making and luck (300+ tours)
"Even if pika does get hit, he could probably survive one crit rocket"
while i do agree Major Crits is easy but the only reason why he's so easy is cus its wave 4 and you got the crit and blast res aswell as a good out of damage upgrades
without these upgrades he will 1 or 2 shot you, he also has 32000 hp so Pikachu has to knock him down untill he's dead, yes he's fast but needing to do that much damage to kill him, Pikachu will get hit at least 9-18 times and in this situation even if Pikachu has crit and blast res 4 hits will kill him, even if he doesn't get hit head on with a kocket he will get blast damage for sure though this match and would get that his % higher and higher untill he gets blasted off the screen and dies
reading what you said over i now see that it won't be as quick as i first though and it is defiantly a bit more fairly matched and would be a tough and long fight i still think Major Crits would win
It would definitely be close and a grindy-ass fight- that's why I asked. You do make a good point that it is a stamina battle. Pikachu's uncharged upsmash might be fat damage, but pikachu's aerials do like 3-6% depending on how stale and which move (down air excepted). I disagree that you need crit res to beat major crits though unless you're playing heavy
I'm sorry crits is just too easy to dodge though- I still gotta give this to pika even if barely
i do agree you don't need upgrades to play mvm if your skilled enough but for the average person that doesn't play mvm often he can be annoying but not the hardest
in terms of the fight, pikachu has to get close to do any damage making it very likely that Major Crits will shoot at his feet to hit pikachu, even tho pikachu could doge he will still get hit with blast damage from time to time witch will add up and lead to him dying, if pikachu is in the air and close he will just get hit in the face by a rocket if he's not fast enough, even if he doesn't die from 1 krit rocket to the face he is still very close to death so any splash damage he takes would most likely kill him, the splash damage is why i am going with Major Crits as no matter how fast pikachu is he will still get hit with splash damage and that will add up witch will kill him in the end
That's a great point. Melee Pikachu's range is pretty ass, and he honestly doesn't have the best frame data. I mean look at frame 10 of Pikachu's back air.
Fortunately for pikachu, he has a projectile he can spam, and the projectile travels across the ground much faster than major crits can dodge it. Theoretically, pikachu can projectile camp while dodging rockets, and when major crits is reloading, use quick attack (up-b recovery move) to get up close and edge cancel (to cancel the move's end lag) off the top of the tanker, and then JC upsmash for fat damage- and continue this cycle until victory. Very draining battle and hard for pikachu but ultimately a winning matchup with projectile camping imo
bro i forgot that he had the projectile its been so long since i played melee, valid point
ya nah i agree now, Pikachu would win, it would be very close and very sweety
i think Pikachu could slip up and take a kocket to the face or get hit with a lot of splash damage and be like 1 splash hit away from going off the screen and win when Major Crits dies
how ever if Major Crits were to win he would be very low, just a few hits away from dying but ill still give the point to Pikachu
Yeah the projectile is a game-changer. The move is kind of slow as it comes out frame 18 but the projectile doesn't disappear until frame 117 so it stays out decently long. It also puts the opponent in hitstun for a few frames when they're hit so theoretically Pikachu could use it to interrupt a barrage of rockets too. It also has a strong hit if you manage to land the projectile before it hits the ground- AND he can use it for area denial. It's a game-changer in the matchup fr
yea valid point
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