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Spellbound Tough Stuff Muffs
Submitted by ★ RussellSproutz
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I was asked by Winston Churchill to take over the price suggestion. Credit to Winston, heidecker, Cheerio, Lemons, and eksd!


Winston Churchill:


Sale 1)

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198054198170#!/compare/1715212800/1715558400 https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199392211477#!/compare/1715472000/1715558400

Item History: https://backpack.tf/item/2075464892

Sold for the following:

1.Disco Beat Down Lil' Bitey - freshly repriced at 292.5K

2.Morning Glory Détective Noir - 7 months outdated - nothing changed in the past 2 months so I am still gonna keep the current value - 142,5K

3.Burning Flames Blast Defense - nothing changed - 155K

4.Ghastly Ghosts Jr Classy Capper - nothing changed - 340K

5.Miami Nights Virtual Viewfinder - nothing changed - 1675K

6.Death at Dusk Tough Stuff Muffs - nothing changed - 400K

7.Pumpkin Moon Thousand-Yard Stare - freshly repriced - 300K

8.Burning Flames Otolaryngologist's Mirror - nothing changed - 110K

9.Morning Glory Tipped Lid - Still outdated - Cheerio sold it for Clairvoyance Antarctic Eyewear + Stormy Storm Burning Question + Vivid Plasma Outta Sight + 125 Keys as it can be seen here: https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198164296876#!/compare/1721606400/1721692800

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198054198170#!/compare/1721606400/1721692800


Antarctic Eyewear is still in date at 97.5, Outta Sight is 3 Years outdated [no past sales that can help reprice it]


Burning Question is 4 years outdated [same as Outta Sight] - If we are to consider the Eyewear current price [97.5K] + Outta Sights highest Buyers [41.35K as of August 7th 2024 - https://imgur.com/a/5LAi8Lo] + Burning Question current value [40K] + 125 Keys we get 303.85K - rounding to 300K, so I am gonna take the current value of the Tipped Lid - 300K10 .Ghastly Ghosts Jr Fat Man's Field Cap - Still outdated - no past sales - I will consider the highest buy order which is STN’s one - https://stntrading.eu/item/tf2/Unusual+Ghastly+Ghosts+Jr+Fat+Man%27s+Field+Cap - 81K


Total Sales - 292.5 + 142.5 + 155 + 340 + 1675 + 400 + 300 + 110 + 300 + 81 = 3796K - rounding to 3800K

this is all the correction for Hat #1, Sale #1


This would be excluded since there was a trade back as shown below on Sale 4.


Sale 2)


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198261483133#!/compare/1717632000/1717718400


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199581722058#!/compare/1717632000/1717718400


It doesn’t show here but Laurennntiu bought it from STN for 3169K.


Shortly after, eksd bought it for a bunch of stuff.


https://imgur.com/a/52MgRy4 - confirmation from Laurennntiu about buying the Stuff from STN for 3169K and for selling it shorthly after for items overpay.


The text is in Romanian, feel free to translate it to convince yourself.


As it was a pure sale it will be 3169 keys flat and there's no need to round it.


Winston will try to reach to Laurennntiu and the STN team again this week, and hopefully they can provide us more info and proofs of the 3169K transaction for Sale 2.


Sale 3)


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198251960730#!/compare/1717632000/1717718400


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198261483133#!/compare/1717632000/1717718400


https://gyazo.com/1cd0302468b47b95abe9e96d337c22fb


strange pro ks shot to hell scattergun (fac new), otherworldly weather antarctic eyewear, orbiting fire crone's dome, rotten orange hottie's hood with orbiting fire, strange vivid plasma anger, bubbling powdered practitioner, steaming hazmat headcase, scorching well rounded rifleman, frozen icefall missing piece, galactic gateway prehistoric pullover, hot ghost town rifle field tested, sunbeams federal casemaker, hot shot to hell pistol well worn, icestruck impact impaler, circling heart pyromancer's mask, holiday horns hat to kill for, jellyfish jam patriot peak, isotope field tested searing souls war paint, pro ks scattergun kit (hot rod and fire horns), & scorching flames dark falkirk helm


This is a very bulky trade and its safe to exclude.


Sale 4)


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198054198170#!/compare/1722384000/1722470400


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199392211477#!/compare/1722211200/1722470400


https://imgur.com/a/PeFxEpM


Bulky trade, but as this is a trade back we can exclude.


Going 3169 Keys Flat.

Avatar ★ RussellSproutz · posted

    Sale 3)


    https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198251960730#!/compare/1717632000/1717718400


    https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198261483133#!/compare/1717632000/1717718400


    https://gyazo.com/1cd0302468b47b95abe9e96d337c22fb


    strange pro ks shot to hell scattergun (fac new), otherworldly weather antarctic eyewear, orbiting fire crone's dome, rotten orange hottie's hood with orbiting fire, strange vivid plasma anger, bubbling powdered practitioner, steaming hazmat headcase, scorching well rounded rifleman, frozen icefall missing piece, galactic gateway prehistoric pullover, hot ghost town rifle field tested, sunbeams federal casemaker, hot shot to hell pistol well worn, icestruck impact impaler, circling heart pyromancer's mask, holiday horns hat to kill for, jellyfish jam patriot peak, isotope field tested searing souls war paint, pro ks scattergun kit (hot rod and fire horns), & scorching flames dark falkirk helm


    There's no usable sales for the ROFP OF Hoodie and I know it would equate a bit in this sale, and same goes for the Jelly Fish Jam Patriot Peak as well. I think it may be best to wait for the pure sale confirmation from Winston Churchill.

    Avatar ★ RussellSproutz · posted

    Hey I'm confused here Russell, you're taking over but you haven't really given any extra analysis of some of the sales.


    Previous suggestion:

    https://backpack.tf/suggestion/666465e5d1cafd07ec0fec36


    Lemons says that the chat confirmation is not enough, I think a screenshot of the trade history is better here.


    For sale 3, you state "This is a very bulky trade and its safe to exclude."

    This does not make any sense lol, it sold for a lot of items not vice versa. You should know this and do the appropriate maths and minis to calculate the value of sale 3 here.


    GL

    Avatar ★ aj · posted

      Winston said he was looking for the 3169 key confirmation from STN and he said he'll post it this coming week. So we'll just let wait till Winston post it. I'll look into it though. Thanks for the feedback, aj.

      Avatar ★ RussellSproutz · posted

        Cool.


        Just to echo what I've said previously, I don't really get why you post a suggestion and then say you are still waiting for proof? Wouldn't it be possible for you to reach out to Laurennntiu and get screenshot proof of the trade?

        Avatar ★ aj · posted

          I will take care of that my dear, do not worry.

          I already emailed STN Team about it.


          If no response will come from them till Sunday this week, I will try more ways to reach out to them.


          Also, I will take the time to collect details from Laurennntiu too

          Avatar ★ Winston Churchill · posted

            Cool, I would appreciate you not calling me "my dear", that's weird as hell.

            I mean we just need a screenshot of the trade, not sure what emailing STN does about this, just get an ss from Lauren if he can provide it

            Avatar ★ aj · posted

              I did that too, "aj"

              As soon as i get info from Laurennntiu, i'll post it here.


              Thank you!

              Avatar ★ Winston Churchill · posted

              Thanks for clarifying, homie

              Avatar ★ RussellSproutz · posted

              Sorry Winston just added me and told me that they'll reach out about doing it. If anything, I will revise sale 3 pertaining eksd's transaction and see if we can make a range or at least see if its truly usable or not.

              Avatar ★ RussellSproutz · posted

          I was here when the spellbound muffs got updooted to a value of basically the equivalent of a gpan 😎

          Avatar ★ Relish · posted

          sale 4 wasnt a tradeback, i just bought the muffs again and i traded completely different hats for it. sale 3 wasnt bulk, alot of items for 1 item is not bulk when youre pricing said 1 item, cant really just ignore it.

          Avatar ★ Cheerio · posted

            Hey Cheerio. The spellbound tough stuff muffs did go back to you. This would be a tradeback. I'll look into Sale 3 though

            Avatar ★ RussellSproutz · posted

              Thats not what a tradeback is tho? thought youd know this, a tradeback is if the person gives back the same items given for the hat

              Avatar ★ Cheerio · posted

                Let's look at the item history- https://backpack.tf/item/2075464892


                You sold it to Blotto. Blotto sold it back to you. Regardless of the different items, this is still a trade back.

                Avatar ★ RussellSproutz · posted

                  ok you can call it that then but it doesnt invalidate either sale 1 or 4 at all, if blotto sold it to someone else and i paid those items to the next person what difference does it make, in backpack suggestion rules a tradeback is when the exact items that were traded before are traded back again, this is 2 seperate sales

                  Avatar ★ Cheerio · posted

                    I get what you're saying here. I'm just citing what Lemons said from the previous SpellBound Tough Stuff Muffs price suggestion -


                    "There's a couple issues here. The 3650 sale was traded back to Cheerio (see his comment)."


                    https://backpack.tf/suggestion/666465e5d1cafd07ec0fec36


                    Look I did the same when I bought back my Aces Antlers. It's still a trade-back. I sold it for 715 in mix and then paid 745 keys. Different items and yet I ended up closing it as it was a trade back. - https://backpack.tf/suggestion/65f4797ed582586aab0a6cc5

                    Avatar ★ RussellSproutz · posted

                      Not sure if lemons meant that it was invalid, itd make more sense if the trade was within a short amount of time after the first trade, but i bought the muffs nearly 3 months after blotto bought them from me

                      Avatar ★ Cheerio · posted

                        Hmm it could be. I think the best thing would be to verify with backpack price moderators about it. Yeah when I made the suggestion your trade with Blotto was exactly 3 months on the dot. From the past information we've been given, it is still a trade back, Cheerio. I will ask for clarification on BP discord though

                        Avatar ★ RussellSproutz · posted

            any update for the sale at 3169 keys? it is still based solely off just a chat conversation

            Avatar Blaze.xTH3RM4Lx · posted

            new sale

            sold for AF rack (3200) + FT EOrb low profile smg + 44 keys + 1134 USD (656 keys) agreed on key rate was 1.73

            https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198054198170#!/compare/1728259200/1728345600

            https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198073823378#!/compare/1728172800/1728345600

            https://imgur.com/a/mNs9Afp

            Avatar ★ Cheerio · posted