think this could be revised to 54-103, (even though i personally don't think we should take that 54 sale) although price mods should be responsible for the final decision.
4 sales @ 49-58, 103 is an outlier clearly.
Maybe. Although now, I wish i took a screenshot of the stats page when i bought these because iirc that price would be under buyers at the time (wish time machine actually worked so i could actually substantiate my argument though lol). Should wait for a mod to comment regardless.
Even so, it doesn't change the fact that 103 is an outlier. Given the new non-unu rules, buyers are not important.
Its not that buyers arent important, but on many items, buyers are inconsistent and constantly moving up and down between values. If this happens, it means that buyers from one specific snapshot in time should not dictate the entire price, since otherwise you can make a new suggestion on any 2 ref hat to constantly rise and drop it between 1.89 and 2.11 (or something like that).
Especially when the suggestion relies on sales to and from bot buyers/sellers, the overall suggested price reflects how sellers and buyers have fluctuated the past month, giving a more appropriate representation of what the hat can sell for at various points in time.
Rarer items like this one are treated differently from the default ruleset for non-unusuals, and will be treated more in line with how unusuals work. In this case, with 3 sales so close together and one that is almost twice as much, it is clear that 103 is the statistical outlier. With these sales, I would not consider 103 as potential part of the range. An argument could be made that it is better left outdated if buyers are consistently higher than the lower end sales, though it seems that that is the common trading point here.
Sounds good, thanks for the insight. One last thing, should this be left open for a little while to see if anything changes?
For now, this can remain open, and such situations are always discussed among mods
Updating
Item 1: https://backpack.tf/item/3125795136 Unsold 6 Months @150
No Marketplace.tf Sales:
https://backpack.tf/suggestion/64c1d7f1562dc683260211dd
SCM Sales:
https://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/440/Ghastly%20Gibus%20Strangifier
https://steamcommunity.com/market/pricehistory/?appid=440&market_hash_name=Ghastly%20Gibus%20Strangifier
x4 $128.49/2.23=~58 Keys (Aug 6th)
$115.00/2.13=~54 Keys (Oct 6th)
Total Sales:
54, 58
Young Classy Buyer @55 Keys
The x4 purchases are completely wrong since i bought them all at the same time.
https://imgur.com/a/7bpyzWE
4 sales, one at 152.11, one at 176.09, one at 179.29, one at 318.05, all CAD
Key price at 3.10 CAD
152.11/3.10= 49.06
176.09/3.10= 56.8
179.29/3.10= 57.8
318.05/3.10= 102.5
total sales: 49, 54. 57, 58, 102.5 (103)
49 seems too low, there have been consistent buyers above this price point (as you probably know)
https://next.backpack.tf/stats?item=Strangifier&quality=Unique&priceindex=584
think this could be revised to 54-103, (even though i personally don't think we should take that 54 sale) although price mods should be responsible for the final decision.
4 sales @ 49-58, 103 is an outlier clearly.
Maybe. Although now, I wish i took a screenshot of the stats page when i bought these because iirc that price would be under buyers at the time (wish time machine actually worked so i could actually substantiate my argument though lol). Should wait for a mod to comment regardless.
Even so, it doesn't change the fact that 103 is an outlier. Given the new non-unu rules, buyers are not important.
Its not that buyers arent important, but on many items, buyers are inconsistent and constantly moving up and down between values. If this happens, it means that buyers from one specific snapshot in time should not dictate the entire price, since otherwise you can make a new suggestion on any 2 ref hat to constantly rise and drop it between 1.89 and 2.11 (or something like that).
Especially when the suggestion relies on sales to and from bot buyers/sellers, the overall suggested price reflects how sellers and buyers have fluctuated the past month, giving a more appropriate representation of what the hat can sell for at various points in time.
Rarer items like this one are treated differently from the default ruleset for non-unusuals, and will be treated more in line with how unusuals work. In this case, with 3 sales so close together and one that is almost twice as much, it is clear that 103 is the statistical outlier. With these sales, I would not consider 103 as potential part of the range. An argument could be made that it is better left outdated if buyers are consistently higher than the lower end sales, though it seems that that is the common trading point here.
Sounds good, thanks for the insight. One last thing, should this be left open for a little while to see if anything changes?
For now, this can remain open, and such situations are always discussed among mods