Suggestion: Demonflame Brotherhood of Arms at 3920 keys

Price Suggestion

~3200 keys

demonflame

29 votes up

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This suggestion was closed Tue, 15 Apr 25 05:24:53 +0000 by the submitter.

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Since the thaboy closed his suggestion I will put it back up

https://imgur.com/a/xdn7jsE

pricing at 3920

Hey T imo theres a nonspelled in circulation. So it may need to be taken in account. I had a suggestion closed because of that very reason - https://backpack.tf/suggestion/65f63068422f68392b0adfbd

Either way you'll have to just wait what the mods say.

The non-spelled is asking MORE than the price check here. Last I checked he was solid on his price. I think the moderators should reconsider the pricing rules for spelled items because it doesn't have a stipulation for when the regular item being sold is more than the price suggestion for a spelled.

I know you mentioned that to me yesterday. That's fair to say. Just wait for the mods, T

Creating a mini-suggestion?

Since there are no other usable sales recently just wanted to post this. Maybe we can subtract like 1000 keys or something but just leaving it at 650 keys is a failed part of the rules and I suggest revising them.

subtract 1000 keys for what exactly

suggestions are pretty straightforward

if this is the only recent sale, and you paid 1:1 gpan full pure, then you remade the suggestion correctly and there’s nothing to change.

if there are other sales within the last 3 months they need to be included (or excluded if necessary)

that’s it

I bought a spelled variant - imo at a v cheap price - but leaving this at 650 just seems like a failure of the rules. Even subtracting %50 of the value I paid would still put this at a significantly more accurate price than 650.

Yeah 100% aware this is spelled

Check eerie orbiting fire anger suggestion at 410 keys

Had Chromatic, other owners unspelled and active, still passed

If eerie anger can pass no issue this suggestion should pass just fine, if it doesn’t it’s just showing suggestion mod bias imo

my bad the 410 was the unspelled resuggest

Check the 500 suggestion

Got it thanks. Appreciate the input

New rules have been put in since that suggestion and a lot of the spelled suggestions have been done.

https://forums.backpack.tf/topic/6033-rules-for-unusual-price-suggestions/#comment-703735

If the hat you are pricing sells for a spelled variant of another hat, you must make a mini-suggestion within your suggestion to justify the value of the spelled hat (i.e. find sales on the spelled hat to show it's worth more than non-spelled variants). In the event the spelled variant of that other hat has no usable sales for a mini, value it equally to the non-spelled variants if they and usable sales for them exist.

If the sale you are using to price a hat includes a spelled variant of that hat, you cannot create a price suggestion to raise the value based on that sale. Sales of spelled variants can be used to lower the value of the hat, provided they aren't outliers.

EXCEPTIONS - A hat may be raised in price, or an unpriced hat may be given a price, using a spelled sale if:

- The sale was to a buy order seeking non-spelled variants and would yield a price raise, provided there aren't better sales to use or

- The most recent price suggestion, if one exists within the last year, is based off a sale for a spelled variant and both of these criteria are met:

- There are NO sales (that aren't outliers) nor relevant sellers of a non-spelled variant for demonstrably less in the last year

- There will still be gray area around sellers that'll be handled on a case-by-case basis. If a seller had a non-spelled variant listed for only a day 6 months ago, that's hardly relevant.

- The owners of the non-spelled variants have not had any major sales for the past year or are trade banned / unable to trade.

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This likely would be fine if it was not for a non spelled actively being for sale.

https://gyazo.com/5a988e6750f27cbbb896935e59b08d5c

damn yeah I didn’t see the non spell for sale

that kinda fucks everything up lol rip

It is being listed for higher than the price check *shrug*

took it down cause nonspelled one is live, ergo, item cant be used to price this one, as per bptf rules

Yeah, bit weird he re-posted a suggestion that was closed for a reason.

The regular item being sold is more than the price suggestion for a spelled which I believe should be acceptable for a price check suggestion

https://backpack.tf/item/2061485672

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198028970071#!/compare/1744329600/1744502400

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198034983683#!/compare/1742774400/1744502400

Non-spelled sold for looks like 2800 pure. Considering there is a new sale for unspelled I would probably say resuggest with only the non spelled

Thanks bro :)