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Mini for Burning Flames Virtual Viewfinder
It's not possible. It's necessary.
Sale 1)
Seller: https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199392211477#!/compare/1745366400/1745452800
Buyer: https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199752553007#!/compare/1745366400/1745452800
Item History:
https://next.backpack.tf/item/7957577017 (Clean)
Sold for a Scorching Flames Potassium Bonnet (Ongoing price suggestion at 4920 Keys)
Scorching Flames Potassium Bonnet (Ongoing price suggestion at 4920 Keys): https://backpack.tf/suggestion/680ac31bae47d180230a4cc3
Sale 2)
Seller: https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198082792831#!/compare/1738454400/1738540800
Buyer: https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198985975922#!/compare/1738454400/1738540800
Item History: https://next.backpack.tf/item/7956690874 (Clean)
Sold for a Blizzardy Storm Coffin Kit, an Eerie Orbiting Fire Coffin Kit and 1250 keys
Mini for Blizzardy Storm Coffin Kit
Seller: https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198082792831#!/compare/1738454400/1738540800
Buyer:
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198985975922#!/compare/1738454400/1738540800
Item History:
https://backpack.tf/item/1279717279
Bulk for Burning Flames Team Captain
No other recent sales.
Mini for Eerie Orbiting Fire Coffin Kit
Seller:
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198082792831#!/compare/1738454400/1738540800
Buyer:
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198985975922#!/compare/1738454400/1738540800
Item History: https://backpack.tf/item/1255536258
Bulk for Burning Flames Team Captain
There's no other recent sales, so I'll consider this sale as unusable.
Sale 3)
Seller: https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198977417516#!/compare/1734998400/1735084800
Buyer: https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198016339526#!/compare/1734566400/1735084800
Item History: https://next.backpack.tf/item/654305115 (Clean)
Burning Flames Team Captain and a Golden Frying Pan (Recently priced at 3920 Keys) for a Burning Flames Virtual Viewfinder - Better used there.
Item History: https://next.backpack.tf/item/388225931 (Duped)
All users own their respective Burning Flames Team Captain
Item History: https://next.backpack.tf/item/357055936 (Duped)
All users own their respective Burning Flames Team Captain
Lmao Burning Team Captain suggestion is just a mini now
How far we fell Dom
These are both outlier sales... This should be closed. I got the Banana for dirt cheap basically a qs and have had offers double what i paid instantly. then flipped it for the TC. To use that sale which is obviously an outlier to reprice this TC is stupidly killing the price and integrity.
I trustt it won't brother no worries
1984
oh nooo :((
did you check two duped sales? also gummy and kush offered 10k usd for it, which is higher than current suggested price. also pricing full pure on golden pan is really low, pans going higher than that (in items)
I did and all owners own their respective dupes BFTCs. It's in date so it's fine. People can do items sure but at the end of day people are asking for 4100 keys for their Golden Pans. I checked the duped sales already. The thing is blank. There is a difference between an offer of 10 k USD and a sale of 4920 keys via the Scorching Flames Potassium Bonnet. People can offer but if there's no transaction occurred. It's not usable.
you mistaken my other question but anyway. you need to add duped sales if they are higher or less than current suggested price. and no, you do not only need sales, offers-buy orders-sell orders change the suggested price. if the sale is higher than buy order, it caps. if the buy order is higher than a sale it will be decided according to price gap. if you really want to price this hat, you need to collect more proofs for it. either way nobody is going to sell it for 4920 keys at least not me. there are some cash sales as well, gummy and kush bought with cash and resold clean bf tc.
Yes I check the dupe sales prior and there are no transactions that occurred and unfortunately dupes are only used as a rise. Gummy and kush's aren't recent within the 3 months unfortunately. I've checked. I assisted BFTC price suggestion last year and help report the cash sales.
I should say and show proof of how I was literally offered almost double what I paid for the banana instantly wich means it was obviously a quick sell and an outlier sale so it shouldn't even be used here smh...
Like we talked before, homie, offers don't equate to sales that transpired.
So outlier sales don't exist anymore?
Like I said before it's not going to be countered as there are sellers at 6000 and buyers at 1000
Buyers mean literally nothing though.
That's the thing homie. It does and as it shows this trade won't be countered, pac. Look we'll just wait on the mods to give us a verdict.
I wonder if this hat would sell for more than 500 keys, if it were added into the multi-class crate.
It would probably result in dropping like the Burning Flames Killer Exclusive, Hero.
They can't afford more feul to keep the TC lit, so seems likes it's becoming it's final fall
BFTC is still a BFTC. Still fairly iconic.
TF2conomy is finished!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For real lol
spectators gonna spectate LOL
Ggs on the trade btw, Blotto.
i would say this should have a range at least. sale 2 is worth 7000-8000 keys.
I agree it's around 8000 but that's the thing. When I tried to mini the coffin kits, there's no other recent sales within 3 months aside from the trade for the BFTC. The other clean one is being used towards the BF VVF.
oh yeah I forgot coffin kit offer on mine and the sale. you can not ignore them. if no minis then you need to wait. also you need other clean/duped sales on this as I've said above.
Not necessarily it's more we can't use it. I could do generic buy orders at 400 keys for each coffin kit, but that would result in being far too low totalling only 2050 keys. This I excluded it. The 4920 sale isn't challenged by either buyers or sellers so this should be fine.
do you know how price suggestion works? you of course cant use buy orders to reprice a high end item. you need sales as you've said before. the blizzardly storm coffin kit priced 4600 keys alone. both of their prices are outdated as well. you can not ignore coffin kit sale as its in date.
You need to wait another clean BF TC sale (duped is fine depending on the sale). or you need to wait for those two coffin kits however there will be huge price range ~5000 to 8000. you will be waiting to find out outlier sale which means a third sale. lets say if there was another sale close to this price then coffin kit trade will be outlier.
I know how to make price suggestions. This coffin kit sale isn't usable since there's no minis, so it will be excluded. I could get leeway for using my price suggestion for the b.storm coffin kit at 4300 keys as it's outdated at 5 months but not for the eerie coffin kit. The only sale we have rn is the potassium bonnet at 4920 keys. This isn't countered as there are listings at 6000 and buy orders at 1000, which makes sense.
you are really something lol.
1) You have to include coffin kit sale.
2) Lets say it is impossible to reprice coffins, you need another sale to find out the mean price. Either potassium trade is outlier or the coffin trade is outlier.
3) 6000 key sellers' BF TC is duplicated. You can not drop prices or reference your pricing with duplicates unless no clean hats in existence.
4) BF TC priced 11 months ago (~7825 keys - mean) and you want to update price to 4920 keys ignoring one sale which is 62% off. Obviously its a quicksale. If it is not obvious you need another sale (3rd sale) to find out the outlier.
5) You are ignoring your words, you said "offers mean nothing" yet talking buy orders. BTW the guy put 1000 keys however if you read the description, offering 2500 keys. You can not use low buy orders, this is absurd.
Look blank we can keep going over and over on this. This still isn't a quicksell. That 6000 seller has been there for months. Duped or not, this a drop. Even there's a buyer that'll pay 2500. The sale of 4920 isn't getting countered.
will not respond you anymore, your brain is really working different. will wait mods for this. as I've said you can not drop prices or support price dropping with duplicated items. you need to include coffin sales and even after that you will need 3rd sale to find outlier due to big price gap ~5000 to 8000 (potassium or coffin). more than 60% off is quicksell.
It's not duped it's clean. https://next.backpack.tf/item/7957577017 (Clean)
Seller: https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199392211477#!/compare/1745366400/1745452800
Buyer: https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199752553007#!/compare/1745366400/1745452800
I'm more than willing to wait for a mod, since this is really going in circles right now.
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199752553007#!/compare/1745625600/1745712000 new sale for clean burning tc - pretty sure this is easily over 11000 keys in unusuals
Going to have to mini it but by the looks of it. It's like an entire conquistador collection and a purple confetti le party phantom
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199752553007#!/compare/1745625600/1745712000
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198057436685#!/compare/1745625600/1745712000
https://backpack.tf/item/7957577017
Sold for a Purple Confetti Le Party Phantom, Purple Confetti Conquistador, Arcana Conquistador, Spellbound Conquistador, Vivid Plasma Conquistador, Stormy 13th Hour Conquistador, Haunted Ghosts Conquistador, Something Burning This Way Comes Conquistador, Miami Nights Conquistador, The Ooze Conquistador, Cloudy Moon Conquistador, Burning Flames Conquistador, Scorching Flames Conquistador, Ghastly Ghost Jr Conquistador, Amaranthine Conquistador
Mini for Arcana Conquistador
https://backpack.tf/item/2033876269
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199752553007#!/compare/1745625600/1745712000
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198057436685#!/compare/1745625600/1745712000
Bulk for Burning Flames Team Captain
Unfortunately there is no other recent sales for the Arcana Conquistador and this will continue to be the trend for the Old Halloweens as well
Mini for Spellbound Conquistador
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199752553007#!/compare/1745625600/1745712000
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198057436685#!/compare/1745625600/1745712000
Bulk for Burning Flames Team Captain
Mini for The Ooze Conquistador
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199752553007#!/compare/1745625600/1745712000
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198057436685#!/compare/1745625600/1745712000
Bulk for Burning Flames Team Captain
Unfortunately as most of these items aren't usable, we'll have to exclude
If all 49 items were included, by just adding up indate prices and buy orders this trade comes out to ~5850 keys pure.
Many high tier effects have very low buy orders and therefore are valued insanely low in that 5850 clearly showing that your suggested price of 4920 is even beaten by a 1000 keys in buy orders here and therefore low.
So now you got 1 sale at <5000 which can be used by rules and two sales that can't be mini'd which are both at minimum 1000+ keys over your suggested. Everything indicates that the Bonnet sale is the outlier here. The 4920 is directly countered by the 5800 buy order sale so it should be excluded as well.
My opinion, it can't be suggested at 4920 flat and should just stay outdated and I am almost confident that mods will rule the same but let's see.
I'm down to wait tbh.