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I hope r0b and Shocked enjoy another W in the book of robo enjoyers, the 500 minis of doom and despair will not stop me from breaking this rack's dry streak
Updates for a correction to Item 1 Sale 1 and updating Item 2 Sale 3 with info from last suggestions comment section, which can be found here:
https://backpack.tf/suggestion/69836ef1e00736b7ea0c8f81
Item 1: https://backpack.tf/item/2841262568
Sale 1: Sold for a Burning Flames Exquisite Rack, a Morning Glory Hong Kong Cone, Haunted Phantasm Jr Slick Cut, AND a Burning Flames Tyrantium Helmet, a Omniscient Orb Hellmet, and a Morbidly Beast Taunt: Flying Colors (the last 3 were missed originally)
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199099521803#!/compare/1763164800/1763251200
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198335636056#!/compare/1763078400/1763251200
Seller proof (Thank you Estel): https://imgur.com/a/2AeTyTZ
Burning Flames Exquisite Rack open suggestion can be found here: https://backpack.tf/suggestion/69823a5f0f9649797b057b4f
Taking 2140k
Haunted Phantasm Jr Slick Cut open suggestion can be found here: https://backpack.tf/suggestion/69820636ca45a85c800267e2
Taking 200k
Morning Glory Hong Kong Cone open suggestion can be found here: https://backpack.tf/suggestion/6983685a34e4d1cfdb037219
Taking 780k
The Omniscient Orb Hellmet's only movement in-date besides the above bulk sale is selling on MCS for $200 on Jan 27th. At the $1.73 key price for that day, we get a sale of 115.61k, which is unusable, because it was on MannCo, hooray! Best I can do with this is use Next snapshots and take buyers from a few days ago at 56k~: https://imgur.com/a/oEXhKOe
Morbidly Beast Taunt: Flying Colors is in-date at 105k.
The Burning Flames Tyrantium Helmet has one other movement besides the above bulk movement, which is the following:
Item 1: https://backpack.tf/item/12250520106
Sale 1: Sold for a Sunbeams Troublemaker's Tossle Cap and 118k
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198086355525#!/compare/1763769600/1764115200
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197963512470#!/compare/1764115200/1764201600
I tried updating the Sunbeams Troublemaker's Tossle Cap to no avail, will leave the micro for it's ineligible movements below for context:
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Item 1: https://backpack.tf/item/10380078171
Sale 1: Sold alongside 118k for a Burning Flames Tyrantium Helmet
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198086355525#!/compare/1763769600/1764115200
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197963512470#!/compare/1764115200/1764201600
This is a mini for the Tyrantium.
Item 2: https://backpack.tf/item/10075033517
Sale 1: Untrace
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198453530349#!/compare/1762819200/1762905600
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198094818081#!/compare/1762819200/1762905600
Item 3: https://backpack.tf/item/4961877280
Sale 1: Untrace
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199072654974#!/compare/1762646400/1762732800
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198075439885#!/compare/1762646400/1763251200
Item 4: https://backpack.tf/item/461625246
Looks like 3 same day movements before a dump to Clone Theta, likely scam related or just bulk buyouts.
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Since this isn't a super suitable price suggestion but still works here, so rather than take buyers of 242.8k for the Tyrantium, I'll take Tossle Cap's buyers + 118k, giving us 175k + 118k = 293k, a better approximation of its value than just buyers
BF Tyrantium buyers: https://imgur.com/a/lRLzS8m
Sunbeams Tossle Cap buyers: https://imgur.com/a/5jzfi96
Total for Sale 1: 2140 + 200 + 780 + 56 + 105 + 293 = 3574k
Sale 2: Sold alongside a Phosphorous Troublemaker's Tossle Cap, a Starstorm Insomnia Hong Kong Cone, and 100 keys for a GPan
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198335636056#!/compare/1767398400/1767484800
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197982127154#!/compare/1767398400/1767484800
GPan is in-date at 3675k.
Phosphorous Troublemaker's Tossle Cap doesn't even get a full micro, as it's only other movement is a bot dump seen below, before being withdrawn by Vytal and used as bulk in the above sale.
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198165597659#!/compare/1766793600/1767312000
Microing it at buyers of 212k: https://imgur.com/a/iGFDC2n
Starstorm Insomnia Hong Kong Cone was redumped by Ultralow but gets way below buyers, sale is possibly incomplete, he receives 233k~ which doesn't seem accurate especially given current classifieds/STN buy orders, so still microing this at buyers despite my open suggestion here: https://backpack.tf/suggestion/69836b545dfbc92fef0a1f9f
https://imgur.com/a/mqIR1yy STN buyer at 310k 42r, or using 57.94 ref price for keys, 310.73k
Total for Sale 2: 3675 - 310.73 - 212 = 3152.27k.
Sale 3: Sold alongside 300k for a GPan
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197982127154#!/compare/1767484800/1767571200
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199099521803#!/compare/1767571200/1767657600
GPan is in-date at 3675k, -300k in adds gives us 3375k for Sale 3.
Item 2: https://backpack.tf/item/3060897890
Sale 1: Sold alongside a Time Warp Hat with No Name for a Frostbite Blighted Beak, Halcyon Halo Battle Boonie, and 900 keys
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198346080922#!/compare/1763596800/1763683200
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198134512931#!/compare/1763596800/1763683200
This is a mini (lol) for the Blighted Beak.
Sale 2: Sold for a Misty Skull Hat with No Name, a Harvest Moon Hunter in Darkness, a Bewitching Bugs Sinner's Shade, and 25 keys
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198872222015#!/compare/1766793600/1766880000
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198134512931#!/compare/1766793600/1766880000
All movements on the Misty seem to be with extremely outdated prices as well (1:1'd with a Stormy 13th Hour Galvanized Gibus, 9y outdated, sold with adds for a Poisoned Shadows Dr's Dapper Topper, 4y outdated), so better used to update there.
Sale 3: Sold for the following:
Demonflame Broadband Bonnet w/ Sinister Staining, Strange Scorching Flames Whirly Warrior, Haunted Ghosts Patriot Peak, Galactic Connection Taunt: Rock, Paper, Scissors, a Dark Twilight Taunt: The Boston Boarder, a Dark Twilight Taunt: Square Dance, a Mysterious Mixture Taunt: Time Out Therapy, Strange Professional Killstreak Australium Grenade Launcher. There's a Baron's Cherished Chaplet Frag Proof Fragger and a Green Black Hole Medic's Mountain Cap also incoming, but unknown if related.
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198872222015#!/compare/1767398400/1767484800
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198838788284#!/compare/1767312000/1767398400
Looking over this again, Bonzo Harmburg is also involved, it's apparently everything on Dante's side except the Darkblaze Buccaneer's Bicorne, according to Dante himself.
Bonzo the All-Gnawing Harmburg is in-date at 2000 keys.
Strange Scorching Flames Whirly Warrior open suggestion can be found here: https://backpack.tf/suggestion/6983a643acf9de714e0abbf1
Taking 1300 keys.
Dark Twilight Taunt: Killer Joke is in-date at 26 keys.
Dark Twilight Taunt: Square Dance micro:
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Item 1: https://backpack.tf/item/4776146253
Sale 1: Bulk
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198872222015#!/compare/1767398400/1767484800
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198838788284#!/compare/1767312000/1767398400
Sale 2: Untrace, looks like it was withdrawn, sold, and deposited again same day, can't be seen entering/exiting either inventory
Item 2: https://backpack.tf/item/13679460536
Sale 1: Untrace, looks to have sold and been deposited on MCS same day
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198047819527#!/compare/1766620800/1766707200
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198851597200#!/compare/1766620800/1766793600
Item 3: https://backpack.tf/item/13817719948
Sale 1: Sells alongside a Spectral Spectrum Orbiting Planets Charmer's Chapeau, no way to discern what makes up what percent of value in this, so excluding
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198047292719#!/compare/1769990400/1770076800
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198039622523#!/compare/1769990400/1770076800
Item 4: https://backpack.tf/item/13901696442
Sale 1: Bulk
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198177872379#!/compare/1764374400/1764547200
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198121536574#!/compare/1764547200/1767484800
Item 5: https://backpack.tf/item/13969711174
Sale 1: Bulk
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198334154880#!/compare/1767830400/1769817600
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199872246215#!/compare/1769817600/1769817600
Marketplace sales:
https://marketplace.tf/items/tf2/1106;5;u3134
$169.99 on Nov 7th
https://marketplace.tf/items/tf2/5021;6
Sale is out of date, so can't see keys, presumably $1.84~ but over unsolds regardless
Classifieds link: https://imgur.com/a/ND20xx4
Taking STN buyers at 33k.
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Dark Twilight Taunt: The Boston Boarder micro:
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Item 1: https://backpack.tf/item/13920160553
Sale 1: Bulk
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198872222015#!/compare/1767398400/1767484800
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198838788284#!/compare/1767312000/1767398400
Sale 2: Bulk
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198329439258#!/compare/1768003200/1768262400
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198872222015#!/compare/1768089600/1768176000
Sale 3: Bot dump (53k 16.44r)
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198329439258#!/compare/1768608000/1768694400
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561199581722058#!/compare/1768608000/1768694400
Classifieds link: https://imgur.com/a/VhVthNu
Between taking STN buyers at 50k or classifieds at 40k, STN's not buying but since there was a bot dump above this anyways, seems like it's fine to take 50k here.
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Mysterious Mixture Taunt: Time Out Therapy micro:
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Item 1: https://backpack.tf/item/12180967997
Sale 1: Bulk
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198872222015#!/compare/1767398400/1767484800
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198838788284#!/compare/1767312000/1767398400
Marketplace sale:
https://marketplace.tf/items/tf2/31154;5;u3092
Sold for $44.99 on Jan 19th
https://marketplace.tf/items/tf2/5021;6
Key price $1.82 for the day
$44.99/$1.82 = 24.72k
Classifieds link: https://imgur.com/a/oQtVCZM
24.72k marketplace sale is over a 20 key unsold for 3 months, comical exclusion. Taking STN buyers at 7k 29.11r, or using 57.94 ref key price, 7.5k
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No special kit, microing the Strange PKS Aussie GL at buyers of 32.32k: https://imgur.com/a/S2YzMun
Galactic Connection Rock, Paper, Scissors open suggestion can be found here: https://backpack.tf/suggestion/697d86fdfcc18c0eb5007b72
Taking 86k
Haunted Ghosts Patriot Peak open suggestion can be found here: https://backpack.tf/suggestion/6983f00a1e576b8d210b310d
Taking 165k
Demonflame Broadband Bonnet w/ Sinister Staining has no useable movements or spelled buyers, so taking generic buyers at 472k: https://imgur.com/a/MRv7KgT
Total for Sale 3: 2000 + 1300 + 26 + 33 + 50 + 7.5 + 32.32 + 86 + 165 + 472 = 4171.82k
Classifieds link: https://imgur.com/a/1XAAfAi
Sales at 3152k, 3375k, 3574k, 4171.82k. Our low end became a new high end, and we still have an outlier about 600 keys above that sale. As stated in the last suggestion, I'd defer to mods on whether this should be a 3150-3550 suggestion or if we stretch it out to 3150-4150, but I think with the adjustment upwards with the correction of Item 1 Sale 1 warrants adding our bigger sale for now. Taking 3152k rounded to 3150k for the low end, and 4171.82k rounded down to 4150k for the high end.
much better now, thanks for putting in the work to redo it
We always do our best here, but if mods no likey 4150, then oh well, it is a pretty big outlier, but corrections to first sale give it a much better chance of holding up now.
I really don't think it's that off, it's barely like 30ish% above the low end, and the middle sale supports it
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198838788284#!/compare/1770422400/1770854400
new sale, 1:1 for a gpan
Yeah I think this solidifies keeping 4150 in the range, sales at 3150~, 3375, 3575~, new GPan sale at 3675 (supporting midpoint of 3650), and then the 4150 sale, so this should be good.
i'd argue this supports leaving 4150 out of the range here. the second highest sale is the pan sale which is still 500 keys away from the sale at 4150 sale. and 4150 resold for 3675.
also, for the sale at 3150:
- you've missed the 100 keys that were added as well and the cone should be taken at 359 not at buyers.
Combined with the -100 and -49 for the difference in the Cone that would put the sale at 3000k~, so it would make sense to cull both the low end sale at 3000 and the high end at 4150, and resuggest this with a new range at 3375-3675 (using the value of the GPan at time of sale) correct?
i'm not seeing a very strong reason to exclude 3000 here compared to excluding 4150 as that resold for quite a bit less than what it was originally bought for
Mostly to cut both ends by a similar amount, we're subtracting 475k~ from high end so subtracting 375k~ from low end seems appropriate, additionally buyers were at 2800k at the time of making this a little over a month ago, and only disappeared for what looks like small periods up as recent as yesterday:
https://next.backpack.tf/classifieds/snapshots/Green%20Black%20Hole%20Exquisite%20Rack/69b690d6b031261a5a0ad89b
I think 4150 is excluded on the basis of a lower resale, but that the 3000 sale is an outlier value-wise (it's only 375k~ off next lowest at 3375, but the higher end has an additional sale to support it), and should be omitted for consistency with establishing the range, and buyer proximity comparative to other sales.
sorry for the wait, but yes that seems fair. feel free to re-suggest accordingly