Suggestion: Strange Huntsman at 10–12 keys

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~42 keys

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Taking proof from other guy

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5140b113ba2536b84f000004

as well as - http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9250274

same guy offering bmoc on another guys trade http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9248982

More proof coming soon. If you check around OP and Trade servers people selling for around 10, some sold, and buyouts of around 15 keys

Found some for 12 keys or lower:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7528663 12 keys, 2 in stock

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8000853 12 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9242019 12 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9264144 12 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9269430 12 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9287270 12 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9290411 12 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9293493 12 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9282489 11 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8556404 10 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8395897 9 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8592330 9 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6054335 8 keys

If these don't sell within a few days, then I am closing this.

Lol your last 4 links are months old. Last one is even 4 months old. Those are the tards of outpost who put something for sale but dont sell it anyway. Why bother using that as counter proof? Anyways many people added them from the look of the comments

Look, I have tons of crate 40s: http://tf2b.com/tf2/76561198066774356

If anyone wants to see the price of S. Huntsman go up, it's me, but I need to see some actual sales at 12 keys to accept that as part of the range.

I know that, but the last 4 links were unnecessary to put

and http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9247413

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9275735

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7219854- s sapper or sf grenade

That was in a minute of looking through my links

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9283335

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6926854 this link is about to sell

another one sold at around 12 http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9249732

Why would you close this? I have seen plenty of links with less proof, not to mention that there are multiple bmoc offers from different people, some 12 keys, even 1 18 keys if you look throughout my trade

If you're gonna claim that 12 keys is an accurate price, then trades asking for 12 keys should be able to sell in a reasonable amount of time. If trades asking for 12 can't get a buyer after several days, then it's clear that these are not worth 12 keys.

and my range is 10-12 keys not 12 keyys, I have valid proof for this range

Your proof may have been valid yesterday night when the hype of crate 40 being discontinued was at it's peak, but the price of crate 40 and the price of the items that come from it are volatile because of that hype. We have to judge the price of these items on a day to day or even hourly basis to get an accurate picture of what they are worth. Your proof may no longer be valid.

*facepalm, then why did all the other salvageds go up almost 2 times in value except for the huntsman. Also I just showed you recent trades. Also someof your counter proof are extremeely old trades on the lowest setting of autobump

also many of them are selling as a set

I'm not denying that a price bump is needed, but I don't see real evidence for 12 keys other than a few overzealous buyers last night. If you had suggested 10 keys flat, then I could have accepted your price suggestion, but 12 keys doesn't seem to be happening.

one, crate 40 items are still going up 2 i still have accurate and recent proof if you look at them. you cant take your proof, say oh these old old ones on autobump arent selling so ill close your trade. again I have one with a guy buying huntsmans at 12 keys, or a bmoc, or an sf gl. Saying that that "supposedly changed" in the last few hours is NOT valid.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9300430

well over 12 key offer

Again i encourage you to look at my proof because it most definitely has solid 12 key proof, there is no reason for shutting down this suggestion

Quick question: How many people are paying twelve keys? Is the answer hundreds, dozens or a few? I don't know and the answer will influence my vote.

Not a single 12 keys Huntsman has sold. In fact, not even the 10 or 11 keys Huntsman has sold. I'm thinking 9-10 keys for the price, maybe even 9-9.5 key.

its not your decision, its the communities bassed off prove and votes

and i have plenty of 12 key proof. What dont you get?

That plenty of proof at 12 mainly have headshot parts attached.

nope, look again

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9293493

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9269430

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9290411

Also, your 8 and 9 key hunts traders have had that price for months. It's not like they made them because they saw hunts were increasing.

also

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9246147

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9262871

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9020716

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9257854

and those were only 3 of the 15+links i have

Those first two links were literally out of the blue, 3rd link was out of your range, and last link was, again, out of range.

Also, 3 of 8 of your 12 key proofs which is not helping you in the least bit.

Those mostly haven't sold.

note that in the first he said added to disscuss, and they guy also did the same on one of his trades. Link 2 look at the hidden comment

White bill's+2 is more like 11 and the add to discuss can range from nothing to the holy grail of offers.

I also just bought a hunts for 9 keys+1 ref w/ dom and robos killed

Proof: http://i.imgur.com/YmGyEdU.png http://i.imgur.com/bYFJSm7.png

btw just so you know, votes don't matter as much as you think. Its up to the admin to decide. Votes are just a second opinion. The admins do their own research to make sure a price is right. If you look at most key suggestions, they are passed with negetive votes :P

That's key suggestions. 90% of the time admins won't have to research.

The only time they research is when something is truly borderline AND/OR you have something like keys where people will downvote because they're sick of keys increasing.

yah, but i have good proof, but god is being the last part of his name :/

Really, you have a few admins telling you that if the 12ers don't start selling soon, they're going to close it. In my opinion, it won't pass. Remake this and find better proof I personally think that something like 9-10 or maybe even 9-11 if you can find actually good proof is reasonable.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9293493

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8592330

Are the only two that have sold out of all of those :P

The links with the 8 key and 9 key has willing buyers. Also most of the 12 key sellers have willing buyers. As for the 10 key seller, he is now asking for offers and the 11 key seller I doubt has bumped his trade more than 2-3 times.

Also:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9262411 - Offer of 12 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7218219 - Claims to have sold one for 17 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9242019 - One add for 13 keys

all below 10 have had multiple ppl add em and the 10 keys link claims to have an offer of 15

I'm finding it very hard to buy for 10 keys.

I've only gotten 1 in the last 4 hours.

The rest are turning me down.

Just closed my suggestion as your price range is more accurate...or at least more in the right direction.

inb4 worth buds by the end of the week

I still think it's a bit early to price these since the demand is fluctuating currently, but it may be a slightly better price than the previous. As much as we want accurate prices, we also want to prevent traders from being sharked. Please find some more proof to back up your suggestion.

Im kinda at school, wanted to see proof i saw on outpost and get that up

Mph, people immediatly inflate the value by a lot on the day it goes out.

Such haste and impatience.

meh, if its gonna go up might as well make it quick and painful

Still, impatience and haste isnt exactly something people should take as their guide.

Well you might as well compare them with meet the stats.

I compare with crate #30s strange prices and its amount.

#30 Nr of crates in existance. 4000+

#40 Nr of crates in existance 25,000+ (No joke)

#30s Highest value stranges in existance 4000 +/-

#40s Highest value stranges in existance 9000-10,000 (And the amount will go up)

Face it. The stranges from crate 40 are cancer that doesn't deserve to be sold for even a bud. I don't care if the crate don't drop anymore Because there is Buttloads of the stranges. If you look at those who try to raise the price of the 40 stranges a few of them might have up to like 38 sappers/ huntsmen. I don't see anyone with 38 S. kritzkriegs.

that doesnt matter. people buy for 12 keys. price should be raised to that range

other proof

looking for 23 keys, some offert like lime bill's + 2 keys : http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7219854

bill's + 3 keys : http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9211907

ty, i think this might be my first approved trade

That moment when the economy is fucked outta nowhere.

it isnt by stranges, strange keep the economy balanaced.

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5140de72ba2536750500000c

more proof from another trade

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6223191

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6196963

dont like those 4 months old trades likely from a bot, given as proof here

sorry didnt realize, but thats the only one. If you look under his recent offers its more in my pricerange

I'm not sure how I feel about this price, I see your proof... but demand for them, is it high enough to raise it so?

I mean, with the strange festive huntsman it put the strange huntsman to shame, and anyone that could afford one went for strange festive. Personally I don't see the 10-12, but 8-9 would seem more reasonable for a jump.

There was an 8-9 trade, but his proof actually suggested 10-14. I too dont want a ridicoulous jump so i think this will satisfy people for now

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9264896

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9245985

got offered a TS Bill's

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9246228

This Guy buy the S. Huntsman for 12 keys http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9275735

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9250274 - bought one for BMOC (check his bp)

However, very few trades actually happen at 12 keys. The spread of prices ranges from buyers successful at 7 to some at 12. I think maybe 10 keys flat for now would be better

if you look at my proof people are more than happy to offer at the 10-12 key range, even a little more sometimes

I mostly just see 10 key offers, not many over 10.

bmoc is 11-12 keys

you keep saying that, but i have a few at 10, and a few at 11, and a few at 12 or more. My proof is more than sufficient for this range

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9247413

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9238853 18 keys

Seriously

Liar.

Best offer is 10 keys.

The second link ( http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9238853 ) is for strange sapper+strange huntsman.

Best C/O according to seller is 20 keys, which would mean 10 keys for each item.

10 keys is not 12 keys and not 18 keys.

to phoenix

again

http://www.reddit.com/r/tf2trade/comments/1a990x/h_strange_kritzkrieg_strange_huntsman_strange/)

go complain somewhere else

Let's go through all the trades here..

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9250274 - bought for BMOC (12 keys)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7219854 - lime bills (9) + 2 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9211907 - sold for 11 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9246228 - TS bills (10 max)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9275735 - buying for 12

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9248651 - sold 10 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6926854 - very old trade, BO 12, best recent offer 9 + sweets

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6223191 - very old trade, best recent offer is s.f.buff banner + head warmer (6 keys)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6196963 - very old trade, best recent offers is 8 keys or a bills

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9264896 - ts bills/ white bills offer (10)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9245985 - 10 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9097663 - 10 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9255894 - 7 keys

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/56/11/0 - one available for 11 keys

One sold for BMOC, one desperate buyer at 12. That's not enough to warrant a 12 key high price.

very old trades with RECENT offers

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9255479

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9245985 12 and then 13.5 keys. Stop arguing, im right

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9245985 - where do you see 13.5 keys? and the 12 was a BMOC offer, by the same person who bought one already

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9255479 - seeing as how the trader didn't trade the huntsman, it indicates that the gold bills + 5 keys offer was retracted. The same person who offered that also has a trade up buying for 4 keys http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9258877

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9097663

I'd say about 7-9 would be fine for now. Or 8-10. But it shouldn't change this radically.

look at my proof. it suggests 10-12 keys easily

your opinion is invalid

Just so you know, an opinion can't be invalid.

But I won't start fighting here.

opinions are invalid on bptf, it really doesnt matter waht u say

And that statement in and of itself is an opinion and therefore invalid. Plus, you're using an ergo hoc, propter hoc argument to try and raise the price. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc in case you need a link.

Haha awesome comment. ^^

not really, why do you think people cant put up trades with just opinion. Opinions dont matter on this site, proof does, if you didnt understand what i meant by that sometimes i can be unclear

@NEWS TEAM: That's exactly what I'm saying. Proof matters, and picking out assorted proof after you've reached a conclusion doesn't help anyone. Nor does it make an accurate price.

ah ty, i dont thinkk phoenix understands. He being whiny and annoying, spamming how im lying and supporting everything that that goes agaisnt this trade

Thank you for your opinion.

Feels like this trade is a attempt for all the strange huntsman-hoarders that lost their 25 keys-values.

Just cause #40 is discontinued doesnt mean they all just increase in value.

8 702 strange huntsman at least right now.

25 665 crates of the #40.

Show links on sales for your suggestion pls.

Right now I see every market and server flooded with #40-items.

no crate 50 came out on the 12th so people are looking for the crate 40 and its contents. I think the price change should wait a little till the market stabilizes then we can get a better read on the actual price of it.

Sales are just as valid as offers, and there r both on my trade

The mod posted more trades showing sales and offers at lower price.

Just as valid.

The one with the most trades supporting his claim should be the one having the most correct price.

True or false?

I get why you want to make a profit, but you have to get others can see your intentions are obvious.

1 isnt a mod, just a donator, 2 look at my proof, i have posted way mroe since then providing more link with 10, 11 , 12 and even 18. Stop spamming. I have sufficient proof for all prices.

1. He is a pricing administrator on backpack.tf. Remind me what your title is again?

2. Lets check your links.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9264896

--> Seller finished trade without actually selling the item or the #40-crates. Its still in his backpack.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9245985

--->Guy has been offered 10 keys as best offer. Not even close to his wanted price for 16 keys.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9245985

-->Seller got offered 20 keys for Strange sapper AND strange huntsman TOGETHER. Which means 10 keys for the huntsman.

Conclusion:

No offers at 18 keys or 12 keys among your last three links you tried to show as "proof".

You are also lying about information from the trades.

Hate to break it to you. But your 2 strange huntsman are not worth 18 keys for now.

You dont have sufficient proof, you actually shown links that support the admin instead. .

Please refrain from personal attacks for the sake of avoiding a flame war. A bit late for that I guess....

and actually, dickhead, i wanst lying above, He changed his notes. look and compare http://www.reddit.com/r/tf2trade/comments/1a990x/h_strange_kritzkrieg_strange_huntsman_strange/) Again stop being pissed off and spamming my trades

Stop with the foul language please.

Your link, what is that even?

I am not pissed, I am just showing your proof is poorly made for the suggestion.

This is not your personal trade.

thats called redditt. sorry to be ragiing but your getting on my nerves. Who does that, Just says LIAR, actually

see actually my proof supports my range. if you look at th 13 plus links i have suggested it shows 10-12+ keys, but i dont think it will help anyone to have it be more

Just a note, that link also specifically says that the price was high. Can't deny the offer though.

Blood collector?

I may be wrong but isn't the salvaged crate value supposed to be the average price of the items in side of it? So far none of the item prices are higher than it's current price, which doesn't really make sense. In this case, either the salvaged crate is going up too much, or the items aren't going up enough. Since the salvaged crate vote already passed and is unlikely to be voted down, wouldn't it be logical to raise this price?

Logic and I HAVE PROOF

Im gonna have to agree with shenanigans on this one, The price is fluctuating way too much right now. It can be bought at 8-9 but i've seem a couple sell at 13-14 as well, not gonna vote on this tho. it might be accurate now, but by the time this gets accepted it'll be outdated.

it doesnt matter what you think, look at my proof

you can stop being a dick. And btw, i never said your proof is wrong, "i've seen a couple sell at 13-14 as well", I'm saying the price isn't stable. Some people are selling well over your range from what i've seen, but some are able to buy at less than your range too. meaning the price isn't stable.

im not being a dick, backpack.tf isnt about opinion.I know price isnt stable, but this is a good base point and hope it will slowly and safely rise from here. The 6-7 key pricce was bs anyways

it is bs. I havent seen a single one at 6-7 keys since yesterday. And never once did i say its my opinion? But im saying that by the time this gets accepted (IF it gets accepted) the price will be long outdated.

what i meant in saying that is that if you really think about it huntsmans were going for more like 7.7 ish keys, so its a jump but not a huge one

THAT DOESNT MATTER I HAVE PROOF, your opinion is not how this sight works

So people are willing to pay about the same amount for a non-festive version of the strange huntsman?

lol, i'd rather have a normal strange one than a festive one

Same. Even when the Festive one is more worth then the regualary S. Huntsman, it is just in my eyes, the ugliest ****. :/ Just my opinion and sorry for that.

I hate my sf but im a strange collector

Don't hate it just because it seems like the thing to do. The strange huntsman will continue to be unboxed. The festives will never be unboxed again. Let the people with the regular strange huntsman have their day, but never forget who is king. The strange festive will rise soon enough and the regular version will be put in its place! Muhahahaha!

It won't last. Most of the current players who who wanted Strange Huntsmans (Huntsmen?) bought while it was cheap. Basically a few people will try to hoard now and pay more temporarily. It'll B.M.O.C. a bit, then very steadily (as in over months/years since there are so many) rise again.

To be honest, I much prefer this one than the other one. Upvote :D

why does gold want to close my trade so bad?

It's just that this one to me seems more accurate

r u adming peasant? cause i mean gold is threateining to close my trade, and i have showed him tons of recent proof, but if u look abovve hes saying a buncha bullshit that makes no sense

~~Suggestions are not all about the proof (But it mainly is), it's also the price range that you set. For example, your range seemed high that's why.~~

So I just noticed that this was your suggestion and I have no idea why 'me upvoting' is bad...

Well huntsman used to be 1 of the most wanted stranges for sniper. Price went up in oktober due to the promise of crate 50 coming out. It was worth around 23 key then. (Possibly more if the crate had came out). Half year has passed and people lowballed the shit out of crate 40. Now the hunstman is worth 8 keys. (Also the festive huntsman effected the price). Crate 40 stayed out 150 % more time then crate 30 did. Meaning the same tier stranges should be worth 75 % of their counter part. Example if caber is 12 key then punch should be around 9 key at worth. Prices should change little by little until people actually realise crate 50 is out meaning huge change in prices. ( Every trader predicted the price increase thats most of us lowballed a lot to get them in time for huge profit). I would say 12 key is ok in price for now. But 1 thing has no reason to increase though crate 30 stuff they did not became rarer then they were.

Ill upvote there seems to be enough proof

I have not seen one selling at 7 keys i have no proof since i can't find it on outpost, spreasheets price is at 12 keys and people trying to sell at 10 keys in trade servers, i think this range suits the price of a slavaged crate since that is at the 11 - 13 keys, and hunts is one of the most wanted items in it.

S. Huntsman is underrated, I agree. This price change needs no proof, only needs common sense.

UPVOTE

Holy crap this suggestion has almost 1300 votes (as of me posting this), and it has yet to close! This is the longest I have seen one go.

:D its a fire war between me and the admins

I noticed that much. I gotta say that is quite the jump in price so soon, I mean crate 50 just came out. I have not voted yet, and I probably won't. Good luck with this though.

well crate 40 is at like 10 keys, so this should be above it. and i have great proof

True. To me it just seems sudden. I would have expected around 8 keys, then 9-10, and 12 later down the road as the supply begins to actually dwindle.

well the 6-6.5 and even the 7 key price aws bs

Eh. I have never even attempted to buy one, and I only own strange Mantreads because they bottomed out at 1.5 keys, so I never really kept track of most of the Crate #40 stuff.

One key suggestion had 1500+ votes.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9300430

First one just got an offer of 10 keys.

10 keys, not 12.

That's inside the range.

I see no reason why this bow would get a raise in price. No reason at all. The demand for these has reached the all time low and there are thousands of them for sale.

failure,re add the proof

you might as well just buy a SF huntsman for that price tbh

To be fair, S. F. Huntsman's price is low due to cheaper price of S. Huntsman. If S. Huntsman increases in price so will S. F.

But at the same time some people dislike festives, because they are seasonal and look out of place.

yeah well, thats my logic anyway

Man you have some balls for arguing with an admin....

:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDddd

I wonder if this will get accepted...

Okay so at this point the Hunstman should be accepted, the old price is very inaccurate. I've been getting many painted Bills and 11 key offers quite a few times. I don't think anyone is selling it under 10 keys anymore, there is just a bunch of old trades that have not been updated.

I also just sold a crate #40 for a Bills + Strange Widow Maker, I assume the value of this is approx 13-14+ keys. Since Huntsman is probably the second most desired strange in this crate, the price needs to go up ASAP to reflect the real value.

Also currently the cheapest Crate #40 on the market is $23.00 USD, it went up from $18.00 USD when this suggestion was made.

I think this needs to be accepted, or some higher price needs to be accepted because you are stalling stabilization of prices. Pretty much all the Huntsman for 8-9 keys have been bought already as far as I can tell.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9257686#/32771302 - My trade, just sold it for 12 keys.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6926854

Sir Alex the furred one offered b/o of 12 keys 30 minutes ago.

dat amount of votes

i got offer 10 keys

so UPVOTE

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9236995#/32776170

I'm confused as to why this suggestion has taken so long to be accepted. All of his proof is solid, people have confirmed in the comments multiple times over, yet still nothing. This trade is up to 1500 votes. I think that's enough to determine if its correct or incorrect :l

Upvote