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I went looking for a s.sandman on tf2outpost and it seems they are all either 4 ref or less here is my proof
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9279820
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9131705
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9275731
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9303931
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9306585
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8288038
needs better proof. one trade appears to have sold at a key + rec, but others have no evidence of a sale being made or disprove your suggestion. the bottom-most trade is a month old, when keys were worth less (look at the price of the flare gun).
there is already a much more active suggestion for 3-4 ref, i'm not sure why you posted this.
some links are 2.33, some are old, and some are unsold, so downvote c:
Said the same thing to gold in my dick, what up's suggestion, but on outpost there are almost no people offering 4 refined, and not to mention his suggestion had quite a bit of counter proof at 3 refined.
offers don't matter, we're tracking the price at which things are sold.
I know, but when nobody offers at 4, then it must mean not many are being sold at 4.
Yup agreed sold many at 3.33