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Don't kill me please.
Edit: People already are trying to :) . No counter proof as of yet, just childish insults
More proof will be added as I go.
"1 Earbuds = 25.69 Keys"- http://tf2finance.com/
Scrap.tf buys for 25, it gets used
Bought/buyers:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7974810 24 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8788827 25.4 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9652807 25.2 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8469645 25
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6123957 offers going as low as 24
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8795705 25
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9526220 says he bought 20 at 25 keys, offer of 25.6
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9436770 sale at 2 for 50?
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9779497 25.6?
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/3419294 offers getting low as 23
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6439198 offer at 25
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9801031 25
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9826164 3 for 77, rejected
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7740434 24-25
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9778762 24.4
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9607171 25
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6410746 24 "quickbuyer"
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9523530 24, heaps of sellers
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9153336 25 (1 week old)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8701928 25.6 offer
Sellers/sold
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9739720 25.7
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9343471 25.7
Failed at 26
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9851448
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9847035
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9842922
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9851125
For an item as widely used in trade as this, and all the examples of it, I do not think that this is enough info.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9343471 25 keys + 3 ref
KILL HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Some of those offers are months and months old....
And some are days, I'm trying as hard as I can- there are very few done deals still open
The fact that you're "trying hard" to change the price is the problem. If the price were true, you wouldn't have to try at all- it would be obvious.
your "failed at 26". are all new trades posted less then 10 hours old.exceopt the 12 hour one. and they have multiple in stock.and have keys in inventory.
and your using quickbuyers in your suggestions like the last 3 suggestions. someone.like link 1 somone is buying for 24 keys.has no bookmarks. and a random add. that was a month ago. even if he bought some for a low price.doesnt mean the item should drop. people buy bills for 7 keys. and are sometimes succesful doesnt mean it should be 8 keys. tf2finace tracks a very small amount of buds being sold. and should not be the really only "good" proof you have.
Scraptf buys everything for cheaper than the listed price and it always gets used...can't really use that as an example or every single item would be continuously dropping using your thinking...
Also, there are none in inventory now, so that means there are more buyers at 26 than there are sellers at 25...
Very true, that's why the outpost trades are up there
More proof:
Sellers:
http://imgur.com/uIswhtU.jpg 25.2
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9842309 25.7
Buyers:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9497613 25
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9429891 24.5 (1 week old)
1st link is obvious quicksell
2nd link sold in 2 hours
Link 3 edited their notes after the trade was posted, none of the adds on there are reliable evidence.
Link 4 is the same as link 3
None of the buyers at 24 are valid evidence--most are ancient and there are very few buds in their packs. The "heaps of sellers" one even says they were away and they dont have any in their pack
Both your sellers have edited their notes.
ALLLL your "Failed at 26" sellers are successful after less than a day.
These are trivial to sell for 26, and we don't list quicksell prices here. Without more evidence and/or a smaller range there's no reason to change the price
So keys are rising, and buds dropping, here we go guys, the end of tf2 trading
"the end"
this guy knows everything
And now my night is made.
buds where 19 keys in the summer last year and where more in the winter before then. key prices are irrelevant to buds paypal prices aren't though
Took soo long to sell a pair at 26 keys
And i had to drop my buying price to 24 keys. Because i had lots of adds for 25 keys
No point in listing buyers if they have no proof of them buying.
Also sold Buds in less then an hour for 25.75 Keys.
http://i.imgur.com/AYe2g1I.png
People said they accepted the price. Do I have to get screenshots of their trade?
I've already had a screen shot
upvote your suggested average it seems to be accurate with tf2 finance and this guy above me.
buds are droping,
Leave it to noobs to try to change prices of currency for just for some rep.
Yay! Internet points!
exactly, =)
Says the guy with a 70% voting accuracy and a 33% suggestion accuracy.
? Is that meant to be an insult?
TF2finace at the high end of 25? Might as well round down... By your proof, 25.5-26 keys would look better.
Maybe, I'll try that if this gets closed. Also, what's the point of changing to such a small range when they do get sold (not as frequently) out of it?
almost every day this week price of buds has to change oh boy.
i dont get it, just because ppl make a good deal does not mean they are dropping, thats just how trading works, need more proof.
I'm trying, it's hard to sort through the "50 keys firm lowballers be reported"
but why even bother trying to change the price, you know that ppl are going to try to buy them for 24 keys if you do that, thats just how trading works, everybody wants to make profit, they see that keys are going up so they just hurry so that they can hord them and wait for buds to fall again, i dont eve have buds(got gifted), i want to buy them, but not if they are falling, and thats why they are all trying to sell it before it drops even more.
It gets to point however when it isn't "gud deel". If it's hard to sell at 26 and easy to buy at 25 then the range is correct
you cannot change price based off of only buyers - 25.5-26 keys would be better.
Why not? People sell for 26, buy for 25-25.5 it works
and when the price is 25-26 keys, lowballers will buy for 24-25 keys and resell for a higher price and we vote to drop the price of buds again, see the pattern?
There are always traders trying to buy for a key less than actual price. And there's always traders trying to sell for a key over. There is no pattern, none of this is anything new. If you look at the history of earbuds, they've always been especially prone to change compared to other currencies.
yes i agree with your comment but you misinterpreted what i meant, what i mean is that yes people will always try to sell a key higher and buy key lower (me too :3) and we can't let this affect the price of the bud. Just because alot of people started to buy bud at lowball price doesn't mean we have to lower the value.
Ahh, my mistake. Thanks for the clarification, I definitely agree.
tf2finance is 25.8 keys. sellers that are supposedly failing at 26 keys are not failing anymore. most have sold, if they haven't, they were selling multiple and some have sold. the sellers are not selling for under 26 anymore, those quickly sold out. As you can see from your two sellers that were in your range but not current range, they went very quickly. therefore 25 is too low. 25.5-26 is a lot more accurate.
If there are buyers at over 25 keys, then the low end should not be 25 keys. You have shown some buyers at over 25, those are the less lowballers. the reason you dont base off buyers is because buyers only buy when they get lucky.
Look at the graph, it rises then drops, then stabilizes, this is just the rise
Edit: And as you can see it stabilized at around 25.65