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Okay got the right price now guys thanks for feedback

7 month old price + 1 trade open


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12706151 - Sold for my Memory Leak Fr-0 ( 2-2.5 buds )


Again Comments-Feedback-Suggestions Greatly Aprreciated

    There we go, ya got it this time, I will upfloat this boat!

      Yaay thanks for the help guys =D

        No problem always happy to help. At least you're accepting to advice unlike some plebs on this website at times. Keep listening and I assure you, you'll go far. :3

      Just a question: 2 buds is already in range...why exactly do you want to remove 1.7 buds?

        doesnt seem to have been a sale for quite a while except for this

          Mh...but you need more than a sale to eliminate the low end. Are there offers more than the low end which were declined?


          Otherwise I don't see a need to update the price; 2 buds is in the range. If it gets sold at a higher price or gets higher offers it needs an update, but for now the range is fine. At least that's how I see it.

            There was one trade open that is linked above. The price was last updated 7 months ago. I think we could take this more as a refresh than a raise in the price.

              no, you dont need more sales. all you need is one sale if no other are recent. much like pricing on 1:1 unusuals

                I know alot about pricing 1:1 unusuals; you have to calculate sales but more importantly offers in your price. We have 1 sale...but on the offer side for instance a planet bomber was offered (listed 1.8-2.1 buds).

                Using overpay it results in 1.7 buds. It was declined as it seems. And as I see, nothing better was offered, but all below that.


                If you are fine with a single sale as single proof it is your matter, but to persuade me it takes a bit more. Where are more offers resulting in 2 buds or more? If you can't provide more sales, provide offers supporting the new price.

                  http://backpack.tf/vote/id/51ee8f0bba2536ef71000017 this one will get accepted at a flat 2.5. so no, flat 2 buds for this is fine

                    thanks Christley ^^

                      So...no offers including? The only proof is the sale? If that's enough for you. I'll stay neutral on this one. The suggestion is not wrong, but it's not really right.

                      provide more sales? Go try find another recent one let's see how you do and fix the 7 month old price

                        Not sales. Offers supporting the new price.

                        There are 4 in existence, that was the only one on sale, the last price suggestion was accepted 7 months ago, where can other proof come from?! A declined offer means that this price is now not possible to purchase at and thus outdated, especially on an unusual which in real terms is rare. Go find the other Tams and search there history and find what they were sold for if you really think it's necessary.

                          So you tell me noone offered on this item. I don't think so. And offers are always important. Offers show what people are willing to pay. If noone offers near the B/O it means it is too high. If they offer above a certain value it means the item is worth more than this.

                            Yes he was offered 3 times before accepting the FR-0 and declined all of them. Also the Power Surge Tam does not have a price so we can't determine include it. Like I said before tracking down every other offer is going to be a monumental and pretty futile task. It just isn't worth it.

                              Find Counterproof and don't go here just nagging about your opinion and then I'll consider it , somebody got issues here...

                  Give that guy a stress reliever , somebody doesn't want to get a guy's unusual updated...xD

                    Well, let's put it this way, I'm totally indifferent whether your unusual is worth 0.15 buds more or not. I just don't like how many many suggestions are made with so little proof.

                      Look it's an unusual not a common item like a strange weapon, plenty of unusual suggestions go through with just 1-2 proofs, it's not uncommon!

                        ye, no, actually even for a 1:1 unusual with only 2 sales in the entire history I provided more proof.than here.


                        But sure, let's make this guy happy, it won't change the people's attitude towards this hat. We'll see whether he can sell his hat at 2 buds or more.

                          I looked through the unboxers trades over 11 months back and couldn't find a trade with the hat in it. Happy now? I think you're just getting pedantic now. Like MrRockafeller said, provide counter-proof if you want. So if we did find out who the other 3 owners of the other hats where we'd probably be here till Christmas trying to sort out a price.

                            There's a reason why the only class unusual I bought is all demoman......

                              cuz I use it and don't diehard to resell there's a reason why I overpaid the guy

                      How about next time you do your research on your own:


                      Offers on it:

                      -planets bomber (1.8-2.1 =~ 1.7 buds as unusual overpay)


                      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11692283

                      -stormy rack + 10 keys (~1.78 buds)

                      -1 bud + 20 keys ( =~ 1.87 buds)


                      Which shows that the low end might be a bit too low.


                      And that's how a suggestion is supposed to have offers as proof included.

                        True but both offers were declined, the Planets Bomber was declined in the second trade he put up from what we can tell, this means the hat cannot be bought at this price. Just because someone offered within the current range doesn't mean it is what the price should be, prices when possible need to be based off actual sales and not just offers and current offers.

                          So...I show proof in favor of this suggestion and you guys dislike it? You should really think about which side you are at: Pro or contra this suggestion.


                          Btw: I showed 200% more proof for the suggested range than OP did, and it wasn't that hard. I really recommand doing some digging next time. It helps to prevent such unnecessary discussions.

                              Ahh okay I see better where you are coming from now. I agree he could have showed other offers but if they were declined then I don't feel it is paramount to the suggestion. This guy for instance did not include offers that were declined: http://backpack.tf/vote/id/51eec52e4bd7b80a0500000f Either way sorry if there was any confusion. Now it's up to the mods and voters to decide if this goes through. :)

                                So your counterproof is offers on the planets bomber???...on a flaming lantern Tam o shanter suggestion?? this what your doing is an unnecessary discussion niggah *facepalm* ,

                                  Reading can be helpful. Especially if I state twice that I prove your suggested range.


                                  I just recommand you doing the research I did on your own next time. It was quite simple.