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Yea i totally agree that the other sugg was valid 3 days ago , its not now , i don't really see the point of the cool down sugg if they gonna keep the suggestion 3 more days after cool down wait! it makes no sense!
anyways gonna add more proofs later , its just i feel that they gonna accept the other sugg right now and we gonna wait more time for the cool down thing to sugg again. even though 20 is not valid anymore and this needs a couner proof.
and yea everyone knows that 18 keys is not possible anymore , so im just gonna add the proofs in the other sugg for now , gonna edit it later.
Sellers at 19 :
( So many sellers in the classfied )
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15827406
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15809679
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15922545
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15935777
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15935762
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15929778
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15914537
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15880635
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15920461
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15910649
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15929728
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15463859
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15809847
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15932051
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15929540
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15930656
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15849968
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15932039
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15926814
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15933670
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15906646
Sellers at 19.5 and less :
( So many sellers in the classfied )
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15927290
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14663837
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15932138
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15932876
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15915454
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15913043
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15929788
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15849523
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15857410
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13168732
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14648748
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15842587
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15924025
Unsolds at 20 :
( So many unsolds in the classfied )
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15810075
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15868270
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15828988
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15830730
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15853023
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15866112
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15876861
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15872564
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15862124
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14598869
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15817295
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15901930
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15892527
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15908413
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15908722
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15907140
Solds 19 keys ~ :
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15809668 - 19 (had more than 8, sold within an hour)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15809696 - 19 (sold within an hour)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15810096 - 19 (sold within a bump)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15810619 - 19 (sold within a bump)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15811395 - 19 (sold within 2 hours)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15812393 - 19 (sold within an hour - had 4)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15813151 - 19 (sold within an hour)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15813439 - 19 (sold within a bump)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15814887 - 19 (1 is sold)
http://puu.sh/5mFMI.png - Sold at 19
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15821845 - sold 19
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15818331 - sold 19keys + 2.00
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15810860 - 19.7 (sold within a bump)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15822464 - Sold 3
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15822885 - Selling for 20 , but there is 1 offer of 19 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15822464
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15820827
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15821999 - 1 19 keys offer , rejected
AH! there is one guy selling for 18 ! http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/51fffababa2536b875000004
Sold , im pretty sure he didnt even wait 2 mins.
Some counterproof, copypasted from other recently closed suggestion:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15854295 - sold for 20
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15868270 - has an interested buyer for 20
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15849828 - sold for 20
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15840256 - 19.5, sold out
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15867795 - sold for 20
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15855919 - sold one for 20
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15845914 - sold 4
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15866149 - sold for 20 (?)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15864987 - sold for 20
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15865465 - sold for 20
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15844034 - sold 3 for 20
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15862009 - sold 5 for 20
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15873170 - sold for 20
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15853417 - sold 1 for 20
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15858937 - sold 2 for 20
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15820991 - 18 keys, sold out
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15873850 - sold for 20
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15866290 - sold out at 19.5
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15916747 - sold for 19
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15917900 - sold for 19
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15914537 - sold 1 for 19
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15918564 - sold for 19
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15901712 - interested buyer for 19
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15899022 - sold for 19
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15893612 - sold (19.3)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15925753 - sold for 19
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15922545 - sold (via buy now) for 19
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15926834 - sold for 19
Also, from your 20 key unsolds:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15868270
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15876861
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15862124
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14598869
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15908722
Are all sold.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15868270
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14598869
these are unsolds , and yea i guess the other 3 they just sold them the moment i sugg this.
the whole thing started few days ago , and im pretty sure i said that 20 keys was valid 2-3 days ago.
"many sellers for 19 in the classifieds"
Theres only really Raxshi and his spam... Take him out and you get less than half a page :P
pls don't take raxshi out :(
edit: done http://puu.sh/5sh9w.png
lolwut so many buds all at once?
Just saying that one listing with multiple in stock as notes would be way better than this way. If you want to change your price you only have to change one listing. And I doubt anyone cares about random levels.
Ah well... let me try to provide some proof to help you...
Unsolds at 19:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15943592
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15943982
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15947576
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15946550
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15945953
http://bazaar.tf/trade/550603
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15912389
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15935762
Unsolds at 20:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15866149
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15865831
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15832662
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15850820
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15873875
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15874615
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15827634
"Yea i totally agree that the other sugg was valid 3 days ago , its not now, i don't really see the point of the cool down sugg if they gonna keep the suggestion 3 more days after cool down wait! it makes no sense!"
The answer to your question lies in your opening sentence itself. Just think about it.
You Don't Really Have Many Solds To Support Your 19.5 Keys Range
Downvote, most all of your 20 unsolds are showing either that are sold, young, poorly bumped or adds.
Well yea maybe some of them are solds , and they just sold them the moment i sugg this , but poorly bumped ? seriously ? all of them bumped 30 mins ago ( i mean from the time u posted this ) and im pretty sure that add =/ sold.
Add = willing buyers. if there are some solds, 20 keys is possible. Get that in your brain.
Let me look at your unsolds:
Link 2: has an add, sold one.
Link 7: sold
Link 9: sold
Link 10: Sold 1-2 at 20
Link 11: has offers of 20
Link 12: sold, check bp.
Link 13: offered above 20
Link 14: Relatively new
Link 15: Sold, check bp
Link 16: Relatively new
20 keys is possible. Downvote.
Don't agree at all.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15820963 - 20 keys , sold 1
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15822885 - 20 keys , sold 2
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15818135 - 20 keys .
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15824520 - 20 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15824458 - Sold 4 at 20 keys each
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15823425 - Sold 1 at 20
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15810248 - Sold at 20.5 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15820999 - Sold at 21 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15809226 - Sold 2 at 20 keys each
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15640993 - Sold 2 at 20 keys each
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15624672 - 2 adds
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15812122 - Offered 20 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15816883 - Offered 20 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15216131 - 1 add
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15827839 - 1 add
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15812122
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15823591
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15812122
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15816883
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15821999
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15185714
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15624672 - Sold for 21.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15821192 - Sold 25+ for 21. Also offered 19.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15811883 - Added, also offered 19.
http://bazaar.tf/trade/312195 - Added for 21.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14567112 - Added for 21.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15216131
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15813822
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15810566
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14941907
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15812122
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14892042 - 2 adds
This range is good.
Not usually my job but..
L1 was 5 days ago when hype was high and has since fallin
L2 was also 5 days ago
L3 also 5 days ago
L4 5 days ago
L5 5 days ago
L6 5 days ago, bought for 20, tried to sell for 20 failed
L7 above any suggested range
L8 same as above
L9 one sold for 20 and buyer is trying to sell for 20 again
L10 only sold one in two weeks
L11 he is selling for 19
L 12 had an offer for 20, denied it and now is trying to sell for that
L13 trying to sell for higher than 20( got none sold for 5 days)
L14 didn't actually go to buyer
L15 went to different buyer. Probably sold for 20 five days ago
L16 same link as 12
L17 yep, but was 5 days ago when hype was high
L18 this is the third time you posted this link
L19 is link13
L20 bought em for 20 and trying to sell for 23....
L21 was closed due to inactivity......
L22 selling for 19 keys, changed pice as 20 didn't sell
L23 don't know if he has sold for 20 or lower as saying "sold:21" doesn't mean much. Although his bp has lots of new keys. So valid as of 5 days ago
L24 dosent look like he has been active lately but has gotten an actual recent offer of 17 keys + F.scatter + craft hat. Which is 19.7 after overpay
L25 only recent add was 5 days ago
L26 had an add but none were sold
L27 duped link
L28 sold three 6 days ago when hype was high haven't sold the last one in new trade for 3 days
L29 sold to princesstown. 5 days ago
L30 went to Kablamm who sold for 19.5 keys. http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9905160
L31 duped link
L32 did sell 2 recent yes
Overall it looks like 20 was valid 5-4 days ago when hype was high but is no longer relevant according to these links. Recent actual sales will be more of a solid indicator. Also I can understand that add= willing buyer but sometimes the added person offers a lowball(like people adding me to offer some crappy unusual for my buds) but do usually indicate a sale. Buds may have sold for 20 keys before but are not, or are very hard to, in the current market. Dislike if you like but that's what's up.
Good work. The moderators' actual decision of holding on to the previous suggestion worked. Hoarders are actually trying to stick to the listed price now, instead of their usual high-ball.
Yeah what they said....downvote
Please review the cooldown rules: http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/4347-a-cooldown-rule-is-in-effect-for-earbuds-until-further-notice-updated-nov-18/
Changes of 0.25 require 1 week between suggestions