Suggestion: Earbuds at 17.5 keys

Main reason why I'm making this is because [most] people from my POV, when looking at classified items and such people value buds at around 17. It's really easy cuz buyers pay ~17, but 18 sellers are just everywhere.

I'll add more 17.5 or lower sellers later..

Didn't notice, but http://backpack.tf/vote/id/52a931e24cd7b896018b456b - I'll have this suggestion up tho, since 17 is a quicksale.

I would think buyers wouldn't matter seeing as how people can low ball as much as they please, but what they were asking to buy was reasonable considering people are selling them for around 17.5 . I like the proof. Unsold buds would be hilarious if there were any. There probably are, so if you see any, add them to your suggestion. It would help it greatly.

I haven't sold a single bud at 17 keys for 12 hours. I don't think 17 is a quicksell, honestly.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16327619

Everyone knows they're going down, so they're not buying them. They'd rather invest in keys (e.g. me). Those who don't know this, buy them.

but now you have 10 adds in 2 days lol prob more since some people don't post added and just add you

https://www.dropbox.com/s/v4bz1lp84vcm8q5/Screenshot%202013-12-13%2011.56.05.png

just sold 2 for 18 pure :3 had a thread on OP

2 people with good suggestions not voting

Buds got hyped and died again, I bet this time will drop to 12 and come back in a blast back up to 17 and die again again... again.

WOW, Shocked. I sold 36 tod's for a bud and turned around and sold instantly for 18 keys.

http://i.imgur.com/PMA7CHu.jpg

This guy selling a lot for 17keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16371498

Upvote

your link for 14 didnt sell. perhaps you should check the histories and stop relying on 100% trade.tf

Lol why are people disliking, he's right it's not sold and he has no keys in his bp. http://puu.sh/5K1Br/007e6c02ab.png

trade history and trade tf doesnt matter.

the thing that matter is that is it still in his backpack

sold mine for 18 but took a while :( upvote

DAmn it for the past 2 hours I have been getting evidence / links to make my own suggestion ARGH lol. I was thinking 17-17.5 or 17.5 flat I guess I will post my findings here

Sellers/sold 17keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15849968

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16187148

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16184788

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16204036

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16092167

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16301095

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16313466(poorly bumped)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16304154 <-- Sold all fast (has many keys no buds)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16299434 <-- No longer has bud (sold!?)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16248207(poorly bumped)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16313466

Sellers/sold <17.5keys But >17keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16299650

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16328057

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16328680

Sellers/sold 17.5keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16327241

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16329442

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16317493

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16328522

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16331045

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16211174

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16233008

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16299067

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16321515

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15991530

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16321973

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16331369

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15820963

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16308117

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16290235

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14648748

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16309075

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16181335

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16325186

Sellers/sold <18keys but >17.5keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16211094 <-- Sold 1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14296366 <-- sold atleast 1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16290675

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16260492 <-- Offer of 17keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16292538

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14663837

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16290942

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16283738 <-- sold 2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16269483 <-- Willing to go down to 17 (Not marked on Steamrep, banned for breakning rule on outpost)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16220119 <-- poorly bubmped

BUYERS

Buyers 17keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13385332

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16256377

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16091280

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16289954 <-- Bought 8

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16315631 <-- Has 4buds in BP

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16226378 <-- Has willing seller

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16331418

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16226378 <--Has willing seller

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16304041 <--Has willing seller(s)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15476240 <-- No longer buying

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16328020

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16287041 <-- Offer of 17.5key

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15883370

17key +1ref http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12331697 <-- Multiple adds recently

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16243579 Sold 2 buds at 18 keys each yesterday. Nothing in comparison with the wall of proof you have but it is a link and needs to be taken in consideration as well.

18 could sell if people didn't shop around. Some people don't especially if the last time they looked for buds they found them at 19 which was just over a week ago. One person might see 18 as a good deal if they never look at bp.tf or trade.tf which many don't. They just look thing up on outpost and that may have been the first one they found. I thought there is a bud kooldown rule when the price is decending.

upvoted, sold mine for 17 keys, tried for 18 but nobody want them for that price :/

http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/4347-a-cooldown-rule-is-in-effect-for-earbuds-until-further-notice-updated-nov-18/

Cool down rule is very much applicable here,unless I am interpreting it wrong. Change in mean value = 0.25. Have to wait for 7 days.

Unfortunately, you are wrong. The suggested change is 0.5keys: 18 -> 17.5

A 0.25key change would mean 18 -> 17.5-18.

I calculated this way.

In mathematics, mean is always derived from two or more numbers. Therefore, to calculate a mean value you are bound to consider 18 and 17.5 keys, and hence, the mean value 17.75, which is 0.25 keys.

what?

there's no range, in both values. The 1st value is 18, the 2nd one is 17.5. You don't need to take average (not even mean). You sould use absolute change between 2 values, this means the change is 18 - 17.5 = .5 key.

The rule considers only mean value, therefore I am only talking about mean values.

Anyways, the other suggestion of 17-17.5 is a better range considering current buds range, so does not matter if this suggestion is closed because of rules or disapproval.

Actually, you are looking at the change from the median price of last suggested price and this one. Since they were both flat rates, and this suggestion is going from 18->17.5, that median is .5. Not .25, because there is no range to either of these prices.

change in mean value here is 0.5 not 0.25, for it to be 0.25 the new price would have to be 17.5-18 or the old price would have to be 17.5-18

I have to admit i dont like this price, even if i own tons of keys.

I'll still Upvote because it really looks fine to me, keep up the good work.

~~I want to raise the price of my hats~~

No but srs nice proof, seems like an 18 sale is hard especially with keys rising >:D

Keys aren't "rising". the cash price of keys is pretty much the same. In reality refined is just worth less everytime the value of keys in ref goes up.

This suggestion is good though. my 17 and 2 ref sale went decently fast

Can't say cause I sold my bud for a circling peace sign Beret, so I think I'll stay neutral.

bud to unusuals should stay about the same 90% of the time no matter the actual price in keys.

I see plenty of sales at 18 keys. I think you need to reconsider your range to 17.5-18.

Also: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16366334

Also, a lot of your sellers at 18 keys sold.

Proof that 18 doesn't sell?

17-17.5 seems better range

Why would 17-17.5 be a better range when 18 keys sell?

yesterday I sold three buds for 18 keys each, I have the last bud to sell and a guy is collecting the remaining keys :)

So I think the buds price will go down like last time ... also the some of the guys who sell buds for less than 18 keys are types engaged in purchase for 16 keys or paypal