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http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19323859 - 8.00 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18493656 - 7.66 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18493656 - 7.66 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19097176 - 7.66 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19329605 - 7.66 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18493656 - 7.66 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18410583 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19305460 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17432170 - 7.55 (Selling Multiple People Bought)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19163826 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19328292 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18783391 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19260040 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19307283 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18677212 - 7.55 (Selling People Bought)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19293843 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17223494 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19174496 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18872069 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18698224 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19303026 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19251205 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19112972 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18450729 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18870795 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18697922 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18432130 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19321817 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18592261 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18711288 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19309395 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19324555 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19231796 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18450729 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18400775 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18884133 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19227238 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19329767 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19163826 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18410583 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19329425 - 7.66 (Buying)
dat one 8 ref buyer doe
ikr, it's apparently a real trade too
hmm nope ? this are all QUICK BUYERS, they need the keys now, as you can see half of the trades alredy GOT CLOSED. they buyed it for that price cause they ned it really fast. by the way, some of the link are BOTS, i checked few of teh bots and when you trade them they not really buy it for 7.55, they buy for 7.44 so check this links befor you put them here. downvote for bad proof
Have you ever heard of changing the post? Think before you write.
yeah a lot of these trades are one time only deals. 7.44-7.55 is the more accurate price range imo.
Sorry, going to need more proof than that.
Also all of your links are broken.
Your links don't even work.
Yay he found the right place! Unfortunately, there is a better suggestion currently for 7.44-7.55. And you aren't showing 7.44 is a quick sell. And in my opinion, you need more proof
Before people say "Not enough proof", try to be lenient. Were you aware that you needed more proof when you were a white belt? Just look at Jesus's proof, be nice. Saying he needs more proof is unnecessary when Jesus already provided the latest sales.
What? And no I wasn't, because people needed to tell me, like people are telling him.
What are you confused about my statement?
The reason why I'm saying this is because I just know 5 more people will say not enough proof and it affects people's voting, instead judging their vote by the right price.
The last 2 sentences. Why am I looking at Jesuss proof.
So then people won't say "not enough proof". If someone really wants to, copy and paste his proof (with his credit of course) so then people don't have the excuse of sheer downvote due to inexperience.
He should include the proof, why should I go to another suggestion to look at it.
See, you just proved my first point.
OK? I wasn't disagreeing. I'm just saying that currently, he doesn't have enough proof in my opinion to justify 7.55 ref flat and remove 7.44 ref.
So he's basically taking credit for Jesus' work.
I was saying that you are one of those blind downvoters is merely because of inexperience. But since I care about accuracy, here is Jesus's proof, credit 100% to him.
7.44 quickbuyers
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18872021 bot
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19265821
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18450729 bot
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18211496
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18897679
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19239652
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19225874
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18013471
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19207742
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19257408
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19225584 bot
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19120177
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19304238
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18724920
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19268314
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18785787
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18819478 bot
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19257702
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18982879
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18900412 bot
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18902591
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19097236
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18706836
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19205858
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19220559
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18783391 bot
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19296193
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19303422
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19177766 bot
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19304489
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19297081
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18244072
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18847443 bot
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19260302
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19286871
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19047204
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18954290
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19137829
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19067783
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17858819
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19177769
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19293843
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18847480 bot
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19283179
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19273727
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19302804
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19049463
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19238356 bot
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/17223494 bot
Also I love how you think 7.44 shouldn't be removed when he provides 7.55 buyers. I mean seriously really?
I'm down voting because I believe 7.44 should be in the range. His suggestion did not show the 7.44 buyers, which is why I'm down voting the suggestion.
Sorry about that. I've fixed the links and on the process of getting more proof.
Are we in 8 ref mindset yet?
Also something is up, http://tf2finance.com/keys/ <--- is not normal lately
What seems to be off with TF2 Finance?
Look at WA1D.
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I don't think 7.44 should be in the range because there is barely anyone selling for 7.44, and if there its because the person is behind on the times
http://scrap.tf/keys i know its only one link but its a major one, scrap.tf buys at 7.55, and many many people use this site
*shrug* bought one for 7.49ref
Thats only one, out of hundreds
"What is relevant here are; personal experiences on the key trades" -every admin on key suggesting
Yes, but your comment would have more value if you provided a screenshot.
And though it is, a sale at that price can be considered an outlier
there is truth to what both of you say, but I just wanted to give my brief two cents and move on :P (wasn't questioned like this in the other suggestion :X had said I bought 4 keys for 30ref)
http://i.imgur.com/UW1TaOM.png Bought 5 keys for 38.33 ref (7.66 ea.).
I searched on outpost, and after a few refreshes (which for keys always provides a new page of results) there was always multiple, in-stock sellers for 7.66 on every search. Anything lower was consistently sold out.
Just from personal experience, I can say that 7.66 is a bit of an instant-buy price--there are always people available at that price point if you want to buy. On the other hand, anything lower is a quicksell--there is an abundance of sales at 7.44-7.55 but they sell out instantly and there is a lot of buyer competition.
Following that logic, 7.55-7.66 would be the ideal price range (quicksales at one end and instantbuys at the other), but it is clear that in terms of volume (from the other suggestion more than this one) that the .44s and .55s eclipse the .66s.
The most accurate price for keys has always been a wonky one because of this disparity between volume and sell speed. I will say that Jesus' suggestion has more convincing proof atm. As with all key suggestions, the mods will leave them up for a bit to allow more community feedback, but the proof is as important as market trends when it comes to currencies--it is better to have a slightly incorrect price that is verifiable than an accurate one pulled out of nowhere.
I encourage both the suggester and the community to provide additional evidence instead of arguing
I got inpatient and bought 10 for 7.66 each.. idk, you can either ask for screenies or take my word for it.
It'd be nice for a screenshot.
Here you go Mr...
http://prntscr.com/3btuuv
http://prntscr.com/3btv2h
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19330808 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19332199 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19318118 - 7.66 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18388674 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19206545 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19338546 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19271020 - 8.00 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19321817 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19303335 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19242282 - 23 ref for 3 keys (23/3 = 7.66) (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19241122 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18884133 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19293843 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19251507 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19253390 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19167545 - 7.55 (Buying)
3rd link (7.66) is actually 7.55.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19311258 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19269251 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18945117 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/18443779 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19332199 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19331174 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19157774 - 7.66 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19341916 - 7.55 (Buying)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/19317544 - 7.66 (Buying)