Suggestion: at 1.44 ref

Not gonna work. Mr.Giang has shown solds at his high-end and whatnot. I don't see why you bothered to counter-suggest when he has clearly more clear and great proofs.

because a normal hat,that's sold for 1.66 shouldn't impact a robo hat,that can't be sold for above 1.44. just and example

it's maybe okay now,when the range is small

but what happens when hats will be sold for 2 ref,due to lack of supply ?

and unwanted hats stay at 1.44 ?

the range will be 1.44-2 ?

just making examples

Hmmm.... I guess the mods will handle this issue. Would really like to see their view on this.

Perhaps users will have to resuggest on hats that didn't use to be worth as much as a regular craft hat.

exactly

those hats will have thier own suggestion,instead of driving the currencies value up

ew I am against with that kind of generic pricing and what not

a craft hat is not price-able you have to say what hat you are suggesting for.

i can get 10000 links from buyers with 1 ref for any craft hat

but i cant prove what hats they bought or sell

same stands here as well.

neutral.

you see i'm rising the price

it's true,you can get 10000 link for 1 ref

but you can get a limited number of 1.44 ref buyers

and none at 1.55

3v1lcl0n3 has actually counter suggested well, as he has mentioned the hype, in which is true. Sooner or later, people are going to want hats for 1.33 or 1.44.

Upvote for proof, but this hype will blow over after this event passes and breadboxes are left in the past

I actually expect more from you.

http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/12924-important-craft-hat-suggestions/

This is why last night, I got a lot of suggestions closed and there were a new craft hat currency system after that.

Stay neutral until you bring more proof than just buyers

this is not a currency like keys,or buds

it's a variety of items,with different looks,which were put in a bag called the "random hat currency"

i'm sorry, but making sellers for such a "currency" doesn't make sense

"Any suggestion with only generic links will be closed.". basically they said the only links that should be valid,aren't ....

Paying 1.66 if this is helps http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20449344

this would help the other suggestion more

but anyhow

as it closed,it cleary proves 1.66 is too much for a "random crafthat" due to him not buying anymore

edit: so it isn't actually helping it :P

lol what? 1.66 is too much? I am not sure whether you are joking or not.

He stopped buying perhaps he ran out of metal? Or he is done crafting? Or he is not buying at the moment. This has nothing to do with 1.66 being too much.

i took a glance at the link,and only after i realised it's a friend of mine

he stopped buying due to how it wasn't profitable at the moment

also the 1.55 buyer changed to 1.33 ref

i still stand at what i said

1.66 is too much

and the 1.66 buyer relisted for 1.44 ref

badam tss

since 2012 to 2013 craft hat have be 1.33 why don't we just the price like that that with by easy for newbie to buy hats

It's good to see that hats are rising. That means when a newbie gets a drop hat, he can sell it for more than 1.33.

Every link is now closed or un-bumped. Update with more proof in comments if you want this to work.

there are 2 pages of people buying for 1.44 at any given time

http://www.tf2outpost.com/search/211598225

So you are being delusional and ignoring all the sales happening at 1.66? I don't get your theory at all.

Also, mods already disapproved suggestion which only contained buyers in craft hats.

"this is not a currency like keys,or buds

it's a variety of items,with different looks,which were put in a bag called the "random hat currency"

i'm sorry, but making sellers for such a "currency" doesn't make sense

"Any suggestion with only generic links will be closed.". basically they said the only links that should be valid,aren't ...."

i encourage free thinking,you should do so too.

i'm quoting myself at what i already said

also

"because a normal hat,that's sold for 1.66 shouldn't impact a robo hat,that can't be sold for above 1.44. just and example

it's maybe okay now,when the range is small

but what happens when hats will be sold for 2 ref,due to lack of supply ?

and unwanted hats stay at 1.44 ?

the range will be 1.44-2 ?

just making examples"

I am not approving your suggestion, you can't update it and you know it while on the other hand, the other suggester is constantly showing sales and buyers and sellers at the range he is suggesting.

he is showing that some hats need a rise ?

just think a bit

are you blinded by the number of links ?

edit:

any crafthat is currently able to sell for 1.44

but some sell for higher,and those hats are obviously worth more than random crafthats

I never go by the number of links. :P

I already said mods disapproved suggestion like this on craft hats before and I don't see why it would pass this time.

because i have solid arguments,which use common sense

buyers are going crazy (and willing to pay more) for crafthats atm because of the breadboxes. I'm pretty sure they'll fall back down to normal when the breadboxes are no longer available.

Therefore, I believe that the proof you have is somewhat tainted and shouldn't be used to redefine the future pricing of crafthats.

probably....and ?

edit: the inclusion of the currency alone is "tainted". it just came to be due to the update. so again...and ? the price can be updated later on

some1 has probably already pointed it out, but the guy labeled as a 1.55 buyer actually pays 1.33. Most likely just changed the price.

yeah i pointed it out :P

thanks tho

i agree i sold 2 of my hats for 1.66 ref no jokes soo up vote

that makes no sense. in theory you should upvote the other topic ?

even tho that's wrong

you should make your own suggestion on those 2 hats,and make them worth more than random crafthats

why such hate xD

not hatin' ,i'm just thinking out loud (rather typing silently,but you get the point)

yeah i get your point :P

He be hatin'.

No one's going to be buying them after the Bread Box is not craftable anymore, that's why they're in sudden demand.

and ?.......

No shit, Captain Obivious.

true, its all because of hype.

Then we'll all have to vote down again.

And TF2 Outpost is actually a better pricing site than bp.tf, because it actually shows what people are sellin em for.

I also bought like what, 20 craft hats for 1.33 each, in the past week?

2 guys added me,asking if i sell crafthats

how ... ? why ... ?

welcome to bp.tf

but the 2nd guy had an unusual and....stuff...

Lol, if they change the prices on bp.tf I swear. Pretty sure bp.tf will fail after that. XD

Changed too much.

good proof upvote

i'd hardly say it's good

but it's more logical to give that kind of proof,than any other

As indicated in the other suggestion, the vast majority of buyers were bought out at 1.44. Most of these are no longer valid links. Several have reduced their price to 1.33 (including scrap.tf). 1.33 should remain in the range. Perhaps 1.33-1.44. Perhaps 1.33-1.66. More evidence will be needed to determine what the range should. Not enough here, however, and votes are not in favor.