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Time to lower the price of another weapon that lost hype. And before you start complaining there's no proof for sellers at 0.05 ref, I'll just quote the words of one of the mods:
Distinctively Vincent, on 12 Jul 2014 - 8:16 PM, said:
It's definitely something that's been unclear for a while now. Straight weapon swapping is scarce even for weapons that virtually never sell for a scrap, so '0.05 sellers' aren't something that can be realistically expected to be provided. As someone who strongly pushed for 'unsolds alone cannot drop a price', I think dropping weapons from a scrap to 0.05 ref should be the exception to the rule.
And now here's the proof for unsolds:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21965978 - 2 days
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21982277 - 2 days
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21976893 - 2 days
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21978527 - 2 days
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21944038 - 3 days
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21960697 - 3 days
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21929155 - 4 days
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21902795 - 5 days
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21854921 - 7 days
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21743165 - 7 days
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21833866 - 7 days
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21852258 - 7 days
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21603537 - 14 days
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21547653 - 14 days
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21577992 - 14 days
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21504794 - 21 days
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21518162 - 21 days
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/20970844 - 30 (checked the history of all 7 - none changed owner)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21290856 - 30 days
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21976893
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21960697
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21929155
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21902795
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21743165
All sold the Huntsman's since the suggestion was posted. Not sure if it matters or not.
EDIT:
Some more solds...
http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=10237262
http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=10236664
http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=10235571
http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=10234887
Closed trades don't always mean that these were sold. On tf2tp.com we can't even see the history of the items. As for your outpost trades I see only 2 of them changed owner or were removed from the trade. I think if it takes more than a week to sell a weapon it can count as unsold.
TF2TP - The items show Deleted when you mouse over them if they were sold/changed owners.
Outpost - I was told on a comment in a past suggestion that an assumption is made that it was sold if it's a completed trade or a removed from trade item. Otherwise, I'd agree with you completely... I don't get it personally... but that's what I was told.
some more proof u can get are checking scrap.tf bots and seeing if they have any huntsmen in stock, if they do have them in stock then people do treat them like a normal weapon and not a scrap weapon.
Yep, there are currently 9 huntsmen on scrap.tf. But unfortunately mods don't accept the scrapbanking sites as proof :(
Maybe not officially, but for voters it's not a bad thing to consider.
No .05 sellers?
Read the second sentence of the suggestion.
He said he "Thinks" he didn't say that it was ok.
Come on, don't let me start explaining again how people are selling ANY weapon for 1 scrap. Distinctively Vincent said, "'0.05 sellers' aren't something that can be realistically expected to be provided". Also, try to show me an example of any weapon that dropped to 0.05 ref value that had sellers at 0.05 ref as proof.
usrs.
I suggest moderating scrap.tf and see how many huntsman they have in stock.
If it's very few within an hour, I'll downvote. If it's easy to get, I'll upvote
Mods don't accept scrap.tf as proof unfortunately. Also scrap.tf is very poor on any sniper and spy weapons. I know this, because I regularly use it for creating collector's weapons (have 5000+ trades there). Nevertheless, it still has 10 huntsmen right now.
"I suggest moderating scrap.tf and see how many huntsman they have in stock. If it's very few within an hour, I'll downvote. If it's easy to get, I'll upvote"
"Maybe not officially, but for voters it's not a bad thing to consider."
Also, I wouldn't say unfortunately. A lot of traders don't really pay attention to weapon prices... they just see "Buying 2 for a scrap" or "Selling this one for a scrap," and if it's a weapon that they want/need, they'll buy it for that price. My point is... scrap.tf isn't really a good price change source because people have no clue about trading weapons, otherwise... I've seen .22 weapons end up on scrap.tf before while everybody else was still making sales at .22 - .33 with them.
Yep, you're right here. Hell, I bought a festive sniper riffle from there for 1 pain train :D So maybe it's correct to use it as support proof.
>scrap.tf isn't really a good price change source because people have no clue about trading weapons
I once got a strange Spy-cicle off of scrap.tf, so clearly people have no clue about trading weapons. I've also seen a Botkiller Sniper and I think a Botkiller Medi Gun.
Upvote, i agree with vincent.
doesnt matter anyways, people will maybe still sell it for a scrap XD
Just like any other weapon priced at 0.05 ref here.
Upvote, good proof, makes sense, and scrap.tf has a lot of huntsmen in stock.
Although i have sold a couple huntsman for a scrap each it does take way too long and they are common enough on scrap.tf
I think every unique weapon that isn't found by item drop should be 0.05 ref. Upvoted not because of the reason I just said, but because I agree with Vincent. It's also really hard to sell weapons for a scrap when you have scrap.tf. You only sell it for a scrap when trading on a pub server.
Wait... So your saying items that MUST BE CRAFTED like Awper Hand, Sharp Dresser, Maul etc. should be 0.05 ref? I'm not sure if this is a typo, but I think you mean "every unique weapon that is found by item drop should be 0.05 ref".
Oh, woops, I did mean what you just said. Thanks for pointing it out! I can't edit my post anymore tough. :/
you are right same goes with the rescue ranger that WAS like a few month's ago 1 scrap but ther are only selling them for 1 scrap on outpost that goes with every weapon (escept the once you have to craft) sow just upboat upgoat upvote whatever
If I can sell three Huntsmans in less than an hour for an scrap each, it doesn't need a lowering.
Need some proof.
good proof + basic logic Upvote
What's funny is that there are more huntsmans than any other weapon in TF2. :P
cuz all the gibus snipers wanna be MLG
Some more proof of unsolds for you:
http://bazaar.tf/trade/970373 - 3 days
http://bazaar.tf/trade/967555 - 4 days
http://bazaar.tf/trade/968287 - 4 days (2 unsold)
http://bazaar.tf/trade/965997 - 5 days
http://bazaar.tf/trade/960472 - 1 week
http://bazaar.tf/trade/958759 - 1 week
http://bazaar.tf/trade/958528 - 1 week (2 unsold)
http://bazaar.tf/trade/956244 - 1 week
http://bazaar.tf/trade/962831 - 1 week (3 unsold)
That's from half of the first page there's unsolds everywhere
Thank you so much! I'm wondering why this suggestion is taking so long to get accepted.
No worries! It can take a while just depends how many suggestions they get at any one time
Definite Upvote here, you have constantly provided counter arguments and reasoning, not to mention proof, to counter other people and support your argument. Not to mention 1 scrap sellers will always exist.
has 3 and is lowering price, up voteJokes, nice proof and good logic behind it. UpboatWanna sell Huntsman bows for scrap each? Go to any degroot server. You will run out of stock pretty fast.
Dud are u kidding me? Ure lowering a weapons price? U cheapskate
But up vote anyway cause go 'ol proof
Weapons are supposed to be 0.05 ref each. There was a hype for this one because it's a part of the crafting recipes for the new weapons. But since you can now get most of them for just 1 scrap, the hype is over.
U have a point
Selling hats by the way add me
by the wayim also selling cool untradible wepon it an acheevmint one plese addNo.
Just no.
Yeah, I can't sell mine for a scrap... upvote.
besides the fact that this weapon NEVER HAD HYPE
Everyone selling weapons at .05 still asks for a scrap or 2 weapons in return so I don't even see the point...
Dud some people aren't doin that they trade for the wep they want that's all
Proof is good.. Logic and counter arguments are just amazing
But I can't even upvote due to the large amounts of Upvotes there...
So.. Nice Job
Thanks! I'm wondering why did this suggestion become so popular :D It was competing with the key suggestion yesterday.