Suggestion: Aces High Bolted Bicorne at 33.5 keys

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Aces High Bolted Bicorne

Submitted Tue, 07 Oct 14 19:32:52 +0000 by ★ Gyro

55%

33.5 keys

~8 keys

aces

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I'm risking my booty on this suggestion. Hope this gets accepted.

Current Sales

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22846299 - 2 Buds (Was bought from me.)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/21726728 - 2 Buds (2 Months Old.)

- Denied an offer of an Ace's High Desert Marauder (~2.1 Buds - Barely just went oudated.)

- Denied an offer of an Dead President Dread Riding Hood + asking for seller to provide sweets.

Solds

http://gyazo.com/1cb6ca8fc995318c2321c3a25b4937a9 - Traded for a Blizzardy Storm Ushanka.

- Person did grant this as 2 Buds (even though it is outdated), but wanted overpay. (1.8 Buds, for the Unusual Overpay only.)

- Gave him 5 keys for overpay. (0.3 Buds.)

- Grand Total: 2.1 Buds.

***Suggestion has been made on this hat to refresh the price.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/22554124 - QS the hat for 16 Keys. (Outlier)

- Proof: http://gyazo.com/10e30e93f463e1ca51c97a29b522babb

Conclusion:

Only 9 in existence and there isn't really a demand for a robotic hat. So, I can see why people cash out on the hat for very cheap or lowball the crap out of it. However, people that has stuck around and try to sell the hat for longer has got some reasonable offers. Counter-suggestions and critique is welcome on this hat, because there is barely any proof on this hat.

There's more than one valid sale, and you should be using them.

You, for example, paid a KaW Trilby for this.

And, the Ushanka sale is invalid because you're using that sale to update the Ushanka.

So, currently, you have no valid sales.

The seller of the Ushanka granted it for 2 Buds and he's trying to resell it for 2 buds.

The KaW Trillby was flipped and I quick sold that stupidly.

There isn't any valid sales, except for the one I did for the Ushanka, in the past three months.

The Ushanka one isn't valid, because the Ushanka is outdated. What the current owner is selling for is completely meaningless. If he was trying to resell for 20 buds, would you be suggesting at that?

You have no valid sales.

I'm not going to argue with how stupid it was. And just to further prove, I have sales correlating with 2+ buds on the Ushanka. And if he did resold the hat for 20 buds, so be it, because I have a proof he bought it for 2 buds and his "selling" price doesn't mean jack shit.

Very well. I'll move on to my second point.

That 'quicksell' took eleven days. That is not a quicksell.

So you have two sales at opposite ends of the spectrum, and need a third to determine the outlier.

Since no third sale exists, this suggestion is invalid.

The broker clarified with me as a quick sale. The person who gave them the item told him to quick sale, so that's what happened. Because it was eleven days doesn't mean a person can bail out on the hat and quick sale. As I mentioned, there isn't much demand for robotic hats and that's also why I considered it as an outlier to the proof.

- Chatlog: http://i.gyazo.com/eb13cde5d6e5f54be3abf59f11a173a5.png

P.S. - Don't mark my comments down, because someone actually agrees with me and disagrees with you.

A chatlog isn't objectively proof of anything, just what some guy thinks.

There's no proof either way whether it's definitely a quicksell or not.

And the validity of the suggestion hinges on it being a quicksell. Ergo there's no proof either way whether the suggestion's valid.

And, I didn't downvote you. Must be people out there who agree with me. It's an odd concept, isn't it...

The problem is. The broker was ordered to quick sell the hat and that is what happened. I just asked him that, because I wanted to further clarify what happened and counter your argument. To me, I see it as a person that abandoned from the original price and quick sold it, because he was that impatient and needed currency. I understand your concern and everyone else's, because, people have different definitions of that term.

And if you didn't do so, then I apologize on my behalf.

Alright, Riddle me this then.

What price was he selling for for 11 days before he quicksold?

If it's anything below 2 this suggestion's in hot water again.

Also;

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/543451bab88d883e0b8b4593

Your sale is now usuable.

Looking from the trade, it looks like it was seeking out other Unusuals. So, there is probably not a defined price.

Also, thank you for making that suggestion. I would ask not to include mine, since it was a quick sale.

Well, since that person's word is so reliable, why don't you ask.

Just went away and he's not responding back to my question. So, I'll get back to you as soon as I can.

Well, in the meantime you can resuggest including your sale, can't you :3

No, since the broker has declared it was a quick sold and it is an outlier.

Your sale isn't though, I mean.

Your KaW Trilby.

1.75 * 0.9 = 1.575 (rounding to 1.6)

There.

Both parties were quick selling and you just put a suggestion on that hat.

And the person responded and the broker was trying to find 2 buds as a buyout.

So, I think you're about done with belittling my suggestion. Go away, please.

I did just put a suggestion on it. I was helping you?

If you ignore a valid sale (which you are, you can't quicksell for a 3rd gen robo-hat, that's ridiculous and a gross mis-interpretation of what quick-selling actually is), then this suggestion is invalid.

The person was quickselling the hat on a trade server. I didn't see it as a robotic effect until afterwards and I didn't like the hat that I had (which I bought that hat for insanely cheap), so I exchanged it out. Seriously, go away. I'm tired of dealing with your belittlement.

(This is talking about the Trillby, not about the other seller.)

Righto, counter-time.

Maybe you should've done that in the first place, instead of wasting my time on millions of questions.

I was trying to improve your suggestion.If you want to bury your head in the sand so be it, I tried.

I didn't consider it as evidence, because he was quickselling it and I was just getting rid of the hat.

That doesn't mean a legitimate trade and if you want to be an asshole like that, then go ahead.

You wasted about an hour of my time with your millions of questions.

Ad hominen tu quoque. Tsk tsk.

Even if the Ushanka wasn't outdated, your math is wrong here.

Ushanka = Bicorne + 5 Keys.

(1.8) = Bicorne + (0.3)

Bicorne = 1.5