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Credit to Shuffle Spy for Le Party Mini and Foamy the Fearsome For Burning Milkman mini


Sale 1: Duped Burning le Party Phantom

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27061274

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27100064

Total of 95 keys rounding to 100


Sale 2: Sold for a Morning Glory Hat of Cards and a Green Energy Scotsman

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27142557

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27192451

Total of 135


Mini's


Duped Burning Le Party Phantom:

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198068100327?time=1443250800 Before

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198068100327?time=1443337200 After

95 keys rounding to 100


Morning Glory Hat of Cards:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27148330

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27154228

Sold for a Burning Duped Pro Ks Milkman


Milk Man This was SOOOOOO painful

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198110272840?time=1443942000

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198110272840?time=1444028400

Sold for a Cloud9 Pirate Bandann, a Duped Cloudy Moon Bonnet, and a Stormy Storm Scotsman Stove which is a total value of


Cloudy Moon Bonnet:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27103513

Sold for 58 keys rounding to 60


Green Energy Scotsman's Stovepipe:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27186471

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27075777

33 keys


Helpful Feedback is always appreciated


    Maths seems off on these.

    CP Bandana = 33, Bonnet = 58, Stovepipe = 16. That's 107 all together for the MG Hat of Cards

    With the Stovepipe that's 140.

    140 * 0.9 = 126 (rounding to 125)


    And also why are you rounding 95 to 100? 95 is fine.

    Should be resuggested at 95-125.

      95 is super ugly also i did no overpay on Bonnet as it was quicksold for pure

        Why? It needs it. A quicksell isn't a valid mini regardless, thankyou for flagging another issue with this suggestion I hadn't noticed.

        Also "95 is ugly" is not a valid reason.

          Well you can round it cant you? If i can why not and i was asked Foamy and he said no overpay was needed on Scotch

            Rounding is at the suggestor's discretion, mostly. I don't see a problem with it, but others might not agree. C'est la vie.

            More sales on the Scotsman (scotch? I'm a little confused now, whichever one QS'd) would be nice. You don't need overpay if it sells for pure quickly, but we want to avoid quicksales, preferably.

              You can round to the nearest five for sales below 100 keys. I think you'll find 95 is already rounded to the nearest five.


              Either it needs overpay because even if it's a pure sale for the mini, it was part of a bulk sale and therefore should have overpay, OR it's a quicksell and unusable as a mini. There are two options, and neither is what you've done here.

                I really don't see the problem you don't apply overpay when pricing an item sold in pure. Also If you disagree with could you find another sale for stoch so i could resuggest. I really don't know how to use scripts so i find it difficult to price dupes.

                  If it was then traded in bulk for one unusual, yes, you do.

                  I will check for Scotch sales.


                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27019638 Another B/O of 60 on the bonnet.

                  Only other sales (including this sale) are bulk sales.

                  Putting overpay on 58 fine. 95-125 is the right range here.

                    BO there is 70 tho, and it has been up for only 3 days.

                    Either way, applying overpay on it here would mean itll be valued below what it can sell for in pure in a few days, which IMO beats the purpose of overpay.


                    I think there's no official rules for it anyway (I never apply overpay when my mini is in full pure, especially not if it sold reasonably fast, but I know others do. But on the other hand, I generally update things for my minis rather than searching 1 sale for it :P)

                      Oh, I've linked the wrong one and now it's too late to edit, dammit. Well, there was another B/O at 60 about.


                      I feel like you need to consider what the sellers would have said in this situation. If you're taking an unusual that can sell easily for pure 1:1 with yours, do you require overpay? Probably not.


                      If you're taking three unusuals 3:1 with yours, do you require overpay if they can sell easily for pure? Yes, you do, because reselling three unusuals is more hassle than reselling one.

                      In this situation, overpay is necessary.


                      And PS, what am I getting dislikes for? The four of you who've disliked, don't be bloody cowards and tell me why, I'm more than happy to tell you why you're wrong <3

                        I guess I'd consider it per unusual when Im the one selling something, but that may be just me; sellers intentions vary.

                        Because the way they consider things vary amongst different sellers, Id say the decision of the suggester to take either of the options shouldnt matter here.

                          I'd love to be all airy-fairy about it like that, but I'm afraid it's not gonna fly.

                          From the Bonnet, to the Milkman, to the MG hat of Cards, to THIS Hat of Cards, you're telling me NONE of those trades require overpay? That's just unreasonable. Hell, I'd say only applying it once was conservative.

                            Im not one of the dislikers, jussayin'

                            Eh, I guess thats why I hate using sales that require this many minis. A slight mistake in a value anywhere could throw the value off way more than this decision :P

                            its a fair point, although Id still say not doing overpay on the bonnet is not really wrong here.


                            Now that I mention it.. The focus is completely on that bonnet, but the real question here should be: are there any other, better usable sales on that mg hat of cards?

                          I am very surprised im not getting downvoted to Oblivion.

              shouldnt round 5 keys just because it's ugly, but I understand not applying overpay on the GE stove because of the pure sale. That said, I'm not seeing anything to do with 33 keys from the links you provided for the GE stove

                I accidentally said stove lol i mean Scotch as it was quicksold for pure

                  oh, yeah, and I also saw that the stove was 1:1'd with the ghosts pith, I was looking for 33 keys pure, my mistake

          http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27276197


          Just wanted to say I quicksold a duped burning Phantom for 114 CS:GO keys + 5 keys ~130 keys, but 115 keys was my B/O