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"Throw ze swtich, Igor!"

"IT'S ALIIIIVE"

I'm back, baby. Didja miss me? 'Course you did.


SALES:

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198117078426/#!/compare/1454486400/1454659200

Sold for OF Noir (Outdated at 18) + sweets (~10)

Not gonna mini, almost definite outlier.


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27700967 Don't know but sold with B/O of 21.


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27865913 Sold for Peace Sign Buckaroo (13)

Histories:

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198202592232/#!/compare/1455696000/1455868800


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27912043 Sold + sweets (~4) for Peace Milkman (Outdated at 18, mini at 20)

= 16

Histories:

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198131115320/#!/compare/1456819200/1456905600


Milkman mini:

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198131115320/#!/compare/1456905600/1457078400 Sold for C9 Gym Rat (~22) + sweets (~3)

= 25

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27857907 Current B/O of 20

Using 20.


Let it ride.

    Who're you?

    :^)

      Who r*

    welcome back gent

      I had a b/o of 20 Keys - http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27717718

      I sold it for an Orbiting Fire Noble Amassments - http://imgur.com/a/RbvYB

      I sold the Noble for an Orb.Fire El Jefe + Spec KS S. Original - http://imgur.com/a/l0h2H

      The El Jefe quicksold for 22 Keys - http://imgur.com/a/XENI2

      Should be capped at my b/o of 20 Keys. Outlier?

        I'd be, inclined, to think so, but I'll keep an eye on the market. It's just as likely 13 is an outlier as this is :P

        I'd personally drop this more conservatively, seeing how there's now two sales above 20 (1 capped at 20), 1 at 16 and 1 at 13. Valuing it above 20 is definitely a no go due to the market buyouts at the moment, but with half the occurred sales above it, Id have no problem with 20 as part of the range.


        Maybe 16-20 could work? having 13 as a low outlier (took the first offer he got in less than a day) and the noir sale as high outlier (far above current market BO's)

          As I said in the comment above, I was waiting on more sales. Note I used this open suggestion to price one of the other translators and that was fine, that's support of this range. I still think it's too early to make a call for certain. Frankly I'm leaning towards 13-20 at this point.

            Yeah its okay to leave this open for a while to await more sales

              I've come to the conclusion this is the right range.

              http://backpack.tf/vote/id/56ec8089dea9e9d02fc42c50 Sold for Aces Raincatcher (would still be 13 without this sale being in the range)

              http://backpack.tf/vote/id/56dea530dea9e9e16cb9de0f Sold for Ancient Codex Translator (~16)

              http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27865970 B/Os are starting to drop below 20 keys

                That aces raincatcher sale is EHP, not MHP :P


                As for the codex translator; this sale is used there, and the other sale on it is 17. If anything, that further supports this range is low

                  But 20 is a definite outlier given the movement of B/Os.

                  I was kinda lazy on the Codex suggestion, I bet there's more sales at ~15.

                    I guess in this case, maybe use the codex for this instead, putting that at 17 and this at 16-17, ignoring the high sales and the low sale? I mean, there's reasoning against 20 and against 13

                  Because of your stupid devaluation ambition. This item's real value should be 25 keys. Not 13! People fall into difficult situation because of people like you. QS's or auctions don't prove actual value!

                    lol


                    It's not "devaluation ambition" if there's proof to support a lower value. If you have proof to make the price 25 Keys, then by all means counter this.

                    It's not really a difficult situation if there's proof to prove a lower value. Nobody has to follow the price here.

                      " "Throw ze swtich, Igor!"

                      "IT'S ALIIIIVE"

                      I'm back, baby. Didja miss me? 'Course you did."


                      close enough

                        Gent said that as an intro for humor.

                        The 3rd line was because Gent was banned for a while, and has now returned to suggesting.


                        I don't see devaluation ambition here.

                        Translation: your inventory is about to drop 5 keys and you're being disrespectful about it. No? Why else would you suggest that this item should be worth more? For a recent Unusual it's stupefyingly common, and Gent also has proof that this is hard to sell at the current price, hence the drop in value.


                        I recommend reading price suggestion rules the next time you say something thoughtless and rude like this. https://backpack.tf/help/suggestions

                  Essay time!


                  ok so Ive checked everything because this suggestion bothers me on the main page:P:


                  Usable sales:

                  Sold for c9 pompom

                  http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198071829822/#!/compare/1457938800/1458025200

                  http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198053728930/#!/compare/1457938800/1458025200

                  needs a mini, but seller declined 15 and 17 pure and showed he was willing to take 20:

                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27937170

                  Sale value is likely between 17 and 20 somewhere


                  Sold for planets festivizer, 3 keys and 2 buds

                  http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198119666999/#!/compare/1457337600/1457424000

                  planets festiv needs mini but that should be ~20


                  Sold for aussie minigun (~20) + ks eyelander kit

                  http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198112342907/#!/compare/1457078400/1457164800

                  ~20


                  Sold for ml glengarry ~18

                  http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198207528353/#!/compare/1456819200/1456905600

                  histories dont match on the other things

                  The glen can be updated to 18:

                  http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198223779024/#!/compare/1455350400/1455696000 sold for 18 keys, 18 key histories match

                  There's 1 other offmarket sale and some bulks/idk sales on the garry, but that 18 pure sale should be the best usable one.


                  idk but seems to have sold for 18 keys + paint can

                  http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198223779024/#!/compare/1455350400/1455696000

                  http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197982127154/#!/compare/1456732800/1456819200


                  codex transl. sale

                  http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197994288846/#!/compare/1456300800/1456387200

                  Other sale on it is 17 as said, but I can undertake such process again on that hat :p


                  Seems to have sold for that exact same hat again:

                  http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198045883624/#!/compare/1455177600/1455264000


                  aussie sticky ~17

                  http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198096877349/#!/compare/1455696000/1456041600


                  Your peace milk sale

                  http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198131115320/#!/compare/1456819200/1456905600


                  17 keys

                  http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197972309544/#!/compare/1457078400/1457424000

                  they match, 04->05 shows 17 escrowed keys


                  Your buckaroos sale, histories dont match on it, buyer shows 14 keys + gold graybans ~15 which do match, and they were used to purchase the peace buck

                  http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198202592232/#!/compare/1455782400/1455868800

                  http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198165294687/#!/compare/1455782400/1455868800

                  ~15


                  Unusable sales:

                  -bulks:

                  idk for what

                  http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198049994644/#!/compare/1457596800/1457683200


                  idk dis either

                  http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198119666999/#!/compare/1457164800/1457251200


                  Used to overpay for a max, which was instantly resold for ~40 in hats

                  http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198242863178/#!/compare/1457337600/1457424000

                  http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198227266224/#!/compare/1457251200/1457424000


                  + Strange FN woodland for dbd outta

                  http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198068952127/#!/compare/1456473600/1456646400


                  -unclear:

                  Probably scm

                  http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198083902939/#!/compare/1456128000/1456560000

                  http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198025329724/#!/compare/1456214400/1456300800


                  no idea

                  http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198242863178/#!/compare/1457596800/1457683200


                  nothing

                  http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198151773090/#!/compare/1455264000/1455782400


                  more nothing

                  http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198051303102/#!/compare/1455523200/1456214400


                  Durr

                  http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198060137271/#!/compare/1453708800/1453795200


                  bulknothing

                  http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198150238606/#!/compare/1455350400/1455436800


                  Altswitch I guess

                  http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198075844142/#!/compare/1454572800/1456300800


                  -obv. outliers:

                  The noir sale you mentioned

                  http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198117078426/#!/compare/1454486400/1454659200


                  ~10 in garbo

                  http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198168455117/#!/compare/1453968000/1454486400

                  2low


                  In summary, sales at:

                  ~10 (garbo)

                  ~15 (near full pure, sold <1day)

                  ~16

                  ~17

                  ~17 (pure)

                  ~17 (aussie)

                  ~17* (codex thing using the other sale from open sugg)

                  ~17* (idem)

                  ~18

                  ~19 (near full pure)

                  ~20* (needs festiv mini, is festivizer + 8 (3 pure and 2buds (5)))

                  ~20 (aussie)

                  ~20 (capped sale mentioned in the cmment section earlier, didnt find that one)

                  ~farabove20 (noir sale)

                  theres also the pompom sale, can be used there I guess


                  Declined pure offers @15 and 17

                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27937170


                  Collecting offer @19

                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/27865970


                  Honestly with this Id even go 17-20 given the aussie/pure sales at that value and the pure offers

                    I'll fix this this evening.