Suggestion: Knifestorm Das Maddendoktor at 92 keys

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Knifestorm Das Maddendoktor

Submitted Wed, 24 Aug 16 23:04:42 +0000 by ★ yapry

58.18%

n/a

92 keys

~500 keys

knife

32 votes up

23 votes down

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Nice hat, 1 of 2. Needs a price to begin with.

Only have one piece of "evidence" due to the hat being so rare.

Proof #1

Sold for a Harvest Moon Gatsby + about 16.8 keys in sweets. (I'll call this 17 for math's sake)

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198079474904#!/compare/1466985600/1467417600

Harvest Gatsby is outdated by 3 months at this point, but there are unfortunately no sellers on BP classifieds nor on TF2Outpost. I'll stick with the old price for now until I have further insight. (~75 keys)

My Math

Lowest end of the Gatsby's range is 69, plus 17 is 86.

Highest end being 81, plus 17 is 98.

Can't have range with 1 sale, so the median of 86 and 98 is 92, hence the price.

Not much else to say. I'm new with suggestions so if I did anything incorrectly, please let me know! Thanks!

The gatsby is outdated and needs a mini suggestion. I know you addressed that there are no sellers, but there have been multiple sales in July alone, according to the hist.

Downvote.

Thanks for the feedback. The Gatsby is hardly outdated at this point, yes? I understand the downvote from your point of view completely, but I don't think that the Gatsby's price would change drastically, so I'm not sure it would effect this hat much either. Also, is there any way I can view these said sales? Like I said, I am new to this.

View the history of the item and you will see when the item changed users.

Will do, however I still believe that this price suggestion is valid. Thanks!

Wait, so you admitted that the Gatsby is outdated, and you're also saying this price suggestion is valid? whhaaa?

Technically it is outdated. However, it just hit 3 months. It's not been a year. While it could use an update, I'm saying that it's update would most likely keep it the same or change the price microscopically. Therefore, I still believe that this price suggestion is valid.

Not really fair to say that just because only 3 months have passed, drastic price-changing sales couldn't have taken place.

Here's an example of this being the case: http://backpack.tf/vote?quality=5&item=Phononaut&priceindex=91&tradable=1&craftable=1&state=0%2C1%2C2&unvotable=1&australium=-1&killstreak_tier=0

If that's not enough, have this: http://backpack.tf/vote?quality=5&item=Executioner&priceindex=8&tradable=1&craftable=1&state=0%2C1%2C2&unvotable=1&australium=-1&killstreak_tier=0

I'm not denying your claim, you're right. I did some looking in to, and the Gatsby seems screwed for the time being. I looked at everyone who owned it but one, and many of them had private inventories which didn't allow me to see what they traded for. One person got it for free, without removing any items. I could only find one good, recent example of the Gatsby selling. If this vote fails, I'll try to update the Gatsby, then try to bring this back. However, the likelyhood of a suggestion passing for the Gatsby is extremely low considering that you can only find one recent example, and that there are 6 rather than 1-3 in existence. It's kind of a stalemate if you completely disregard this suggestion because of the 3 month outdated price on the Gatsby. Also, your first example there is almost not valid because it was one of the new Invasion effects. Harvest has been around for a bit. And the second example was 4 months (albeit a small difference) and was a higher tier hat. When at these prices, I feel they seem to remain more stable. This is mere speculation, but I appreciate your feedback and the chance to debate! :^)

1. The person who got it for free may have been an SCM sale, which is fair game.

2. The invasion effects are a bit unstable, yes. But I don't see why just because the exe is high tier, the example doesn't count. Wouldn't it count MORE because it's high tier, costs more, and thus likely exchanges hands less?

3. I've priced a 1:5 hat in existence with only one sale before. Just see my nuts tsarboosh suggestion.

1. The guy who got it for free's profile is private and his friends list is full. I can't speak on this.

2. When you go more into high-tier and god-tier trading, I feel like because the item(s) get traded less, the price fluxuates more. Tons of things happen with other unusual prices, bud prices, ref prices, etc. while a god-tier is still in 1 player's inventory. So when someone finally does come around and offer on it, the offer has to based on the new "rules" of trading - basically anything that changed while that hat was secluded in 1 inventory. One again, speculation, but I stand by it.

3. That's good to hear, actually. If this fails, I'll attempt to reprice the Gatsby.

1. RIP. You can try to track the sale on the SCM from when the guy received the Gats.

2. Fair enough.

3. Okay mate : ^ )