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Dead Presidents Pirate Bandana
Counter. 14.5 --> 9 with 1 sale. Nope. Also please check history to make sure a sale actually happened...
Sale 1:
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198039260384#!/compare/1478822400/1478908800
Sold for 9 keys pure
X = 9
Sale 2:
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198111398040#!/compare/1477612800/1477785600
Sold for a Peace Sign Magnificent Mongolian (10, see mini below)
X = 10
Sale 3:
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197961492044#!/compare/1477440000/1477612800
Sold for a Spec KS Aussie Fan (11)
Compare links aren't updating fast enough, but histories match.
X = 11
Unusable sales courtesy of the last suggestion:
1.
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198089898350#!/compare/1477612800/1477699200
Sold for a Peace Sign Carouser’s
Histories don't match
2.
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198256468268#!/compare/1477612800/1477699200
Sold along with 6 keys (?) for a kaw tartan tyrolean
Histories don't match.
Peace Sign Magnificent Mongolian Mini:
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197961492044#!/compare/1477353600/1477440000
Sold for a Steaming Magistrate’s Mullet (10, outdated)
http://imgur.com/a/Y0SXG
Multiple sellers @ 10, 10 should be fine
X = 10
Sales at:
9
10
11
Excluding the sale @ 9 because it sold in less than 24 hours, 100% of the time a quicksell. Using rest. Seems low but meh.
Final Price: 10 - 11 keys
SCM also seems to counter 9. Upvote.
Sale 1 was not a "quicksell". I saw people asking for 11 keys, and tried selling for 10 keys, but took 9 keys. The previous backpack.tf price suggestion was 12-17 keys, and selling for 9 pure did not seem to me a quicksell value given all the circumstances. It was all pure as well, and not a capped at 10 key, Unusual offer. In this way, the pure price, say 12, acted as a baseline. Unusual offers are, essentially, overpay offers based upon the soft-value in pure that is established; in accordance with how this site prices unusuals. This was taken as 12 key. Sale 1 should be included in the range, especially since backpack.tf suggestions are based from pure evaluations. Sale 2 mini cannot be used, as you have not shown any sales for the Mongolian, and it is therefore inaccurate. It only caps the price for the Mongolian, from which you base the comparison on the Bandanna from. Sale 3 also cannot be used, as your mini only caps the value of the Aus FaN, but does not show any sales. Essentially, similar reason to the invalidity of sale 2. Constantly referring to the SCM implies sales for Unusual Bandannas, but does not explicitly convey sales for the Dead Presidents version. Inaccurate and unusable.
"Excluding the sale @ 9 because it sold in less than 24 hours, 100% of the time a quicksell."
1. Fallacious inference. I asked on a server for who had pure. I asked for 10 keys from the person who traded me, they offered 9 keys.
"Using rest."
1. The inclusion of these sales are not usable. You need accurate minis.
"Seems low but eh."
2. A nice ploy in the use of language to affirm your opinion regarding the sale.
Still, you barely had the hat for a day. It doesn't matter if you went to a server, it's still a quicksell. Also, the FaN is fine, aussies do not need minis. The sale can be used.
We aren't referring to the SCM as sales, but as supporting evidence. Buy orders are set up there to buy ANY effect; that includes dead presidents. If people are willing to pay $25 for any effect of this hat, 9 is low.
Sellers can be used as minis as long as it is lower than the outdated price and there are no available minis.
Ulysses, I suggest you actually read the unusual price suggestion rules. http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/6033-guide-for-unusual-price-suggestions/ It pretty much contradicts everything you said. Aussies don't need minis and my mini for the mongolean is more than enough. pay close attention to the section regarding quicksells. I applaud you for trying to prove your point but please read the rules before doing so.
Why can sale 3 not be used?
As for the mongolian, theres a ton of sales on that to solidify its value:
Sold for miami plumbers + sweets less than half a key
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198208815717#!/compare/1476576000/1477180800
~11
Sold for idk
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198108913913#!/compare/1476835200/1477785600
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198123537550#!/compare/1476835200/1476921600
This indicates it was ~3.5 in taunts, 3 keys, A spec ks strange degreaser (li'l over 1), ~2 keys worth of metal and some other sweets?
not sure, would round to 10
Sold for spec aussie SMG (~7)+ 3 keys
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198019556015#!/compare/1476489600/1476576000
~10
No idea, histories match on nothing
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198092392943#!/compare/1474934400/1475193600
Quicksold for 9
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28593078
Sold + a key and ~2 in sweets for smoking shako
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198209740103#!/compare/1478304000/1478390400
~11
Quicksold for 9
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198240537922#!/compare/1478217600/1478304000
Idk again, nothing matches
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198036254026#!/compare/1478131200/1478217600
Sold for 10 keys
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198204270999#!/compare/1476057600/1476403200
Another QS at 9
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198064869596#!/compare/1475712000/1477094400
Sold for gfetti mongolian
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198165677867#!/compare/1475625600/1475712000
Thats 2 years outdated though
Sold for steaming tam, and was then resold for a c9 topi with ~3 in adds
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198325673874#!/compare/1474588800/1474934400
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198255865905#!/compare/1474934400/1475798400
Both are outdated but would support 10-11
Sold for 10 keys
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198243530442#!/compare/1474848000/1474934400
Sold for miami boron?
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198145433023#!/compare/1474848000/1474934400
Not sure bout that one. The boron resold for a stormy mongo (~11)
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198145433023#!/compare/1474934400/1475020800
So thats probably overpriced atm. At current that would be an outlier
Looks like 8 keys? would be countered by quickbuyers
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198093327725#!/compare/1474675200/1474761600
Seller also dealed in SCM so maybe he got more for it, not sure
Sold for keys, but I dont know how many
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198206736897#!/compare/1474588800/1474675200
Sold + 3 keys for a S.prof ks ambassador
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198141054773#!/compare/1474416000/1474502400
low outlier
Sold + ~1 in sweets for a SF rocket
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198170939290#!/compare/1478131200/1478217600
~11
No idea
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198211982973#!/compare/1477785600/1478131200
Sold for steaming mullet (~10 but outdated)
https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197961492044#!/compare/1477353600/1477440000
Theres more sales but this should be enough to see that the mongol is ~10 (9 being really easy to get, and 11 being possible in unusuals or items as well. some pure/pure equivalent sales at 10). Note that a lot of these are quick checks so not all of them may be 100% accurate, but there are enough sales here
Also to clarify the capotain sale and the tartan sale:
Both of those are wrong; its not even two sales, its just one; It sold for a prof ks aussie FaN, which was then resold for the peace capo + a ton of sweets
http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198038866814#!/compare/1477612800/1477699200 the missing link
Not 100% sure, and since the person that got it there resold it with a BO of 12, I feel like more was involved
9 quicksold and should thus be excluded from the range. A current (quick)seller at 11 supports the drop. I think this suggestion should be fine.