Suggestion: Dead Presidents Pirate Bandana at 10–11 keys

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~7.25 keys

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This suggestion was accepted Sat, 12 Nov 16 19:17:45 +0000 by Vijf Kilo Boter (met voetjes).

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Dead Presidents Pirate Bandana

Counter. 14.5 --> 9 with 1 sale. Nope. Also please check history to make sure a sale actually happened...

Sale 1:

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198039260384#!/compare/1478822400/1478908800

Sold for 9 keys pure

X = 9

Sale 2:

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198111398040#!/compare/1477612800/1477785600

Sold for a Peace Sign Magnificent Mongolian (10, see mini below)

X = 10

Sale 3:

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197961492044#!/compare/1477440000/1477612800

Sold for a Spec KS Aussie Fan (11)

Compare links aren't updating fast enough, but histories match.

X = 11

Unusable sales courtesy of the last suggestion:

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198089898350#!/compare/1477612800/1477699200

Sold for a Peace Sign Carouser’s

Histories don't match

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198256468268#!/compare/1477612800/1477699200

Sold along with 6 keys (?) for a kaw tartan tyrolean

Histories don't match.

Peace Sign Magnificent Mongolian Mini:

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197961492044#!/compare/1477353600/1477440000

Sold for a Steaming Magistrate’s Mullet (10, outdated)

http://imgur.com/a/Y0SXG

Multiple sellers @ 10, 10 should be fine

X = 10

Sales at:

Excluding the sale @ 9 because it sold in less than 24 hours, 100% of the time a quicksell. Using rest. Seems low but meh.

Final Price: 10 - 11 keys

SCM also seems to counter 9. Upvote.

Sale 1 was not a "quicksell". I saw people asking for 11 keys, and tried selling for 10 keys, but took 9 keys. The previous backpack.tf price suggestion was 12-17 keys, and selling for 9 pure did not seem to me a quicksell value given all the circumstances. It was all pure as well, and not a capped at 10 key, Unusual offer. In this way, the pure price, say 12, acted as a baseline. Unusual offers are, essentially, overpay offers based upon the soft-value in pure that is established; in accordance with how this site prices unusuals. This was taken as 12 key. Sale 1 should be included in the range, especially since backpack.tf suggestions are based from pure evaluations. Sale 2 mini cannot be used, as you have not shown any sales for the Mongolian, and it is therefore inaccurate. It only caps the price for the Mongolian, from which you base the comparison on the Bandanna from. Sale 3 also cannot be used, as your mini only caps the value of the Aus FaN, but does not show any sales. Essentially, similar reason to the invalidity of sale 2. Constantly referring to the SCM implies sales for Unusual Bandannas, but does not explicitly convey sales for the Dead Presidents version. Inaccurate and unusable.

"Excluding the sale @ 9 because it sold in less than 24 hours, 100% of the time a quicksell."

1. Fallacious inference. I asked on a server for who had pure. I asked for 10 keys from the person who traded me, they offered 9 keys.

"Using rest."

1. The inclusion of these sales are not usable. You need accurate minis.

"Seems low but eh."

2. A nice ploy in the use of language to affirm your opinion regarding the sale.

Still, you barely had the hat for a day. It doesn't matter if you went to a server, it's still a quicksell. Also, the FaN is fine, aussies do not need minis. The sale can be used.

We aren't referring to the SCM as sales, but as supporting evidence. Buy orders are set up there to buy ANY effect; that includes dead presidents. If people are willing to pay $25 for any effect of this hat, 9 is low.

Sellers can be used as minis as long as it is lower than the outdated price and there are no available minis.

Ulysses, I suggest you actually read the unusual price suggestion rules. http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/6033-guide-for-unusual-price-suggestions/ It pretty much contradicts everything you said. Aussies don't need minis and my mini for the mongolean is more than enough. pay close attention to the section regarding quicksells. I applaud you for trying to prove your point but please read the rules before doing so.

Why can sale 3 not be used?

As for the mongolian, theres a ton of sales on that to solidify its value:

Sold for miami plumbers + sweets less than half a key

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198208815717#!/compare/1476576000/1477180800

~11

Sold for idk

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198108913913#!/compare/1476835200/1477785600

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198123537550#!/compare/1476835200/1476921600

This indicates it was ~3.5 in taunts, 3 keys, A spec ks strange degreaser (li'l over 1), ~2 keys worth of metal and some other sweets?

not sure, would round to 10

Sold for spec aussie SMG (~7)+ 3 keys

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198019556015#!/compare/1476489600/1476576000

~10

No idea, histories match on nothing

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198092392943#!/compare/1474934400/1475193600

Quicksold for 9

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/28593078

Sold + a key and ~2 in sweets for smoking shako

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198209740103#!/compare/1478304000/1478390400

~11

Quicksold for 9

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198240537922#!/compare/1478217600/1478304000

Idk again, nothing matches

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198036254026#!/compare/1478131200/1478217600

Sold for 10 keys

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198204270999#!/compare/1476057600/1476403200

Another QS at 9

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198064869596#!/compare/1475712000/1477094400

Sold for gfetti mongolian

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198165677867#!/compare/1475625600/1475712000

Thats 2 years outdated though

Sold for steaming tam, and was then resold for a c9 topi with ~3 in adds

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198325673874#!/compare/1474588800/1474934400

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198255865905#!/compare/1474934400/1475798400

Both are outdated but would support 10-11

Sold for 10 keys

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198243530442#!/compare/1474848000/1474934400

Sold for miami boron?

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198145433023#!/compare/1474848000/1474934400

Not sure bout that one. The boron resold for a stormy mongo (~11)

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198145433023#!/compare/1474934400/1475020800

So thats probably overpriced atm. At current that would be an outlier

Looks like 8 keys? would be countered by quickbuyers

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198093327725#!/compare/1474675200/1474761600

Seller also dealed in SCM so maybe he got more for it, not sure

Sold for keys, but I dont know how many

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198206736897#!/compare/1474588800/1474675200

Sold + 3 keys for a S.prof ks ambassador

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198141054773#!/compare/1474416000/1474502400

low outlier

Sold + ~1 in sweets for a SF rocket

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198170939290#!/compare/1478131200/1478217600

~11

No idea

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198211982973#!/compare/1477785600/1478131200

Sold for steaming mullet (~10 but outdated)

https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561197961492044#!/compare/1477353600/1477440000

Theres more sales but this should be enough to see that the mongol is ~10 (9 being really easy to get, and 11 being possible in unusuals or items as well. some pure/pure equivalent sales at 10). Note that a lot of these are quick checks so not all of them may be 100% accurate, but there are enough sales here

Also to clarify the capotain sale and the tartan sale:

Both of those are wrong; its not even two sales, its just one; It sold for a prof ks aussie FaN, which was then resold for the peace capo + a ton of sweets

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198038866814#!/compare/1477612800/1477699200 the missing link

Not 100% sure, and since the person that got it there resold it with a BO of 12, I feel like more was involved

9 quicksold and should thus be excluded from the range. A current (quick)seller at 11 supports the drop. I think this suggestion should be fine.