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Sold for a starstorm slumber teutonic toque

(suggestion at 14 for the toque): https://backpack.tf/suggestion/5bd5e63f44325a71d841e2e0


https://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198342342189#!/compare/1541548800/1541721600


yeah that seems about right

lmao, back at it again

    I think Respawn basically got scammed in this trade, 14 keys for this is wayy too much

      yeah not even themed

          Ladies and gentlemen, we got him...


          YOUR FEELINGS CHANGE LIKE THE WEATHERRRR

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              amen to that

                Epic gamer

                  Can't believe I didn't think of that one.

                  Ima steal that.

                    lul this whole sugg is just one big fckfest

                  Lmao what a meme

                Has too much hair gel, such an outdated hairstyle.

                14 keys for a dark doorway


                yeah seems about right

                Now that is just sad

                  Indeed it is

                  Next time this sells, it's going to be atleast a 1000% raise lol

                    Probably 2000% to be honest

                    Just let it sink in: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn8xLg_X7VE (0:23)

                    Also 0:31 when we see people getting banned for this at some point.

                      man what is it with sharkers and the teutonic togue smh major downvote from me

                        Well, R3SP4WN, bought the shadows one, and the starstorm one, both for very low prices, (although, he only payed 6 more for shadows than the starstorm one, which is pretty funny), and he ended up trading the starstorm one for this. Both the shadows one, and this pomp are both NFS atm, apparently, but it remains to be seen if thats true or not.

                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ-chpbBK8Q

                      i guess this is a case of if you can't beat 'em, join 'em? (on his part)

                        That's an interesting way of putting it. You're kinda right though. People are just starting to realise that you can get away with this sort of stuff.

                          for how long though?

                          It never lasts forever, for one user.

                          but sharking refuses to die.

                        Default buyers at 12.

                        This is fucking stupid. Close please.

                        what a shark lmao

                          Demo got the stickies 2.0

                          not acceptable in the slightest.

                          Starting to think people make suggestions like this not to get them accepted but to bring light onto what sharks are doing so they don't get away unnoticed.

                          +for that, -for the sharked trade.

                            You're absolutely right. That is the sole reason I make these suggestions; to bring light to this sort of thing. It's not my position to actually take action against it, but I can at least point it out.

                              "The wrong thing for the right reason", I can fully respect that.

                              Comparing me to someone who has made over 18 unbalanced trades in the past, including a burning starboard crusader for a holy grail heavy taunt is amusing indeed.

                                Why is this even allowed? And why is this still open?

                                  1/1, 1 sale should be enough :))))

                                    Why wouldn’t it be?

                                  I understand that sharking is a complex gray area that's hard to define but for examples like this and people who buy unusuals for <5 keys... there should be serious consequences.

                                    How hard is it to make sharking bannable? I swear bp.tf staff is just as awful as tf2 team at this point.

                                      But then all the sharks wouldn't buy bp.tf premium anymore hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

                                        The staff wants the dirty sharker money. Now that's sad.

                                          How does this trade benefit the bp.tf team in any way?

                                          This trade has nothing to do with premium.

                                            So you just happened to stumble upon a guy ready to sell his freshly unboxed high tier unu for a trash tier toque? Sure sure.


                                            You paid most likely 10% or less of the unusuals value in unusuals, that's disgusting and sad :/

                                              I’ve been friends with him for close to a year. If my friend’s unusual could have been seen on bp.tf premium, I’m sure someone would have simply lapped it up instead, but with deceit and manipualtion.

                                                You're a special kind of friend then

                                                  Not everyone is like you haha He would 100% be better off by selling it to anyone else in this suggestion

                                          Lol, what is happening here.

                                          It's not FORUM TOPIC, it is a suggestion.

                                            Agreed! And no mods have commented either

                                              A forum post about "Sharks"? Yeah, good luck, its shut-down before anyone manages to respond.

                                                Due to how the comments left on this suggestion haven’t been warned by the mods, I think it’s safe to say we can discuss here.

                                              someone need to report the buyer

                                                you should have checked research before making this comment.he has been reported and has untrusts on 2 issues.

                                                1.sharking/unbalanced trade

                                                2.selling an item thats not his item

                                                  im a very busy man i cant do thet... its not like i dont have any life and all i do is play games all day untill i will possibly die from not moveing.... do your research befor commenting!

                                                    Idk, you seem to be in tf2 24/7

                                                      no I'm not im also going to school! so its 6 hours netflix 10 hours tf2 1 - 2 hours youtube and sleep!

                                                      also i DEFENTLY have a life... jast not the cind thet worth living

                                                      He is a "very busy man" I have to upvote anyone that says that on a backpack.tf suggestion

                                                      2. A misunderstanding taking place over 6 months ago, I don’t expect that to be removed, and quite frankly it should stay as it is.

                                                    EDIT: Wow, this is still going on, shows how much people despise sharks


                                                    What's funny is despite getting his -trusts removed, more people are leaving them because of this.

                                                    He is also personally witch hunting everyone who is speaking ill of him, trying to defend his obvious faults.

                                                    A prime example would be him attempting to gaslight me and others into removing our -trusts, which I did, but only because I wanted to stay on the staff's good side, but I'll speak fully in here.

                                                    I think EVERYONE agrees at this point that the level of Sharking that R3SP4WN is onpar with scamming, and banable in full. And most people will refuse to trade with someone who has a private inventory anyways. Because this first step means he no longer wants anymore to know what he's up to and is coming closer to officially scamming people. The proof is evident, what harm would be brought to Backpack.tf if we removed this guy?

                                                    I know your watching this R3SP4WN, why don't you show your face in the spotlight and stay out of the back alleyways.

                                                      he wont cause hes a scared coward who wont own up to what hes done and continues to do hes basically become the private inventory typical scammer that adds you out of random asking to get your items for free

                                                        Backpack was private prior to the trade. Unprivated just for your satisfaction. I did not ask items for free, nor did I add the user.

                                                        My conversation with him about this is long and tiresome fyi, I have screenshots of the entire thing

                                                        Your comments bleed idiocracy. You left a -trust on my profile under false pretenses, clearly not aware of the whole situation. In response to that, I did not “witch-hunt” you, I replied as


                                                        “Quick buyers were made AFTER the purchase. Please inform yourself before making false assumptions, and previous -trusts left for the bats have already been removed. Also only mods can leave -trusts relating to sharking so you are welcome to contact them about this, but PLEASE do your research beforehand. You may as well remove your -trust, or you can wait till I have it removed for me.”


                                                        It’s clear the mods aren’t going to retaliate against you for leaving a -trust, that’s ridiculous. If you found my comment do be gaslighting, I honestly have to question your judgment. As with the comment I made on velociraptor’s sugesstion, I was attempting to save you some time, but it appears as though such gestures only backfire on me in the most unexpected of ways. You sir, are the one encouraging witch-hunting, simply getting riled up through mob mentality and failing to inform yourself of the most basic facts. Your comment on how I hide in the “back alleyways” doesn’t make much sense, but I assume you mean something along the lines of “lurking in the shadows.” I agree with you. I’m going to be clearing things up later, time for people to stop with this ridiculousness.

                                                        Burning out so adding some fuel:

                                                        https://gyazo.com/896bfb621179054a340697d2a9474cc0

                                                        Kinda starting to respect his commitment


                                                        There are IMO only 2 types of suggestions worth making:

                                                        1)Very Easy

                                                        2)Very "Controversial"

                                                          *A prime example would be him attempting to gaslight me and others into removing our -trusts*

                                                            So you are comparing a trade where someone bought an Unusual with a few stranges and cosmetics to mine? Interesting.

                                                              the "that dude paid so little, so therefore my trade which i paid more was justified" argument like dude take your head out of your ass and quit falsifying reality and attempting to poorly damage control, like that pomp was an utter scam plain and simple when you have the most shitty version of that hat going for 28 keys (n&b) and blank buy orders for the pomp at 12.5 and you manage to get it off a guy for roughly 14 keys yeah i call bullshit if you dare try and justify that as a fair trade you are too wrapped up in your little fantasy and are no different from any other scammer and sharker

                                                                Perhaps you should give more thought into what you write. Fools like you make false assumptions, I never “used” another man’s dirty deeds to make mine look any better. People are taking -trusts I left on people a while ago, and using them completely out of context. Another point I would like to add is that I never claimed it was a fair trade. I believe it is you, sir, that’s looking at this issue so one dimensionally that what you say doesn’t mean much at all at this point.

                                                                  R3sp4wn "I never “used” another man’s dirty deeds to make mine look any better" also respawn "So you are comparing a trade where someone bought an Unusual with a few stranges and cosmetics to mine? Interesting." if you claim that Im a fool, then explain why you have the history you do where you have not just one but two incidences within the past month of extremely shitty trades that are basically scams. If you try and deflect this issue off of you and claim some bs excuse it would only confirm to everyone that it was just that.

                                                                    I was responding to someone who highlighted a comment I made about someone else’s trade. At this rate I can only assume you are trying to bait me into an argument I simply cannot win, or perhaps you are truly just dumb. You seem to believe that “my way with words” enabled me to get trades like these, but quite frankly it’s probably just because I have a functional brain.

                                                                      The maker of rope, ties his own noose. If that were the case why hit reply on my comment rather that leroys and mention that you never said it was a fair trade? :MonkaS: I wonder whos brain is functional or is just truly dumb in this case

                                                                        Because Leroy never said I was justifying my trades?.... Seriously, are you okay? You have to be joking at this point.

                                                                          look four comments up to where you say "Another point I would like to add is that I never claimed it was a fair trade" to which i said the same afterwards. My initial comment where i mentioned that being a trade that really couldn't be justified was said in a preventative manner if it were to have even been claimed by you during this debacle. It was also based off the "that dude paid so little, so therefore my trade which i paid more was justified" argument in response to "So you are comparing a trade where someone bought an Unusual with a few stranges and cosmetics to mine? Interesting."

                                                                          while the term justified in this section of the comments was brought up by me and not leroy, the manner in which you responded and continue to act created said argument, if it makes you feel better i can reword it so its more appealing "that dude scammed a person to which i called him out so therefore my actions and trades cannot be compared because I think highly of myself" like its pretty much the same thing if there was more to it i emplore you to post evidence that would convince us otherwise to think that this trade was not a scam/shark

                                                                            I have zero clue as to what you are telling me. You either need to use paragraphs or become better at explaining something. However, I managed to catch what you said at the end there, and I agree. I’m typing up a response where I detail exactly how the trade went down.

                                                                              paragraphs were added but for some reason bptf consolidated it

                                                                                Does it even matter? You already said that you were the one offering, so it is 100% your fault. And scamming your 1 year friend is just awful. Anyone else wouldÂŽve helped and not taken advantage

                                                                                  Comments like these are hilarious. If you can’t prove I abused premium, if you can’t prove I approached my friend myself and tried to rip him off, then you resort to criticizing my “friendships.” My friend has yet to voice a single complaint about this thing (although I admit he hasn’t been online recently), and yet you all assume that I tricked him. He was happy with the trade, and he probably still is. How could you possibly criticize me, when the one who traded with me hadn’t said anything? Like who gave you the right to make such judgments? What a joke. You talk as if you were the person I traded with.

                                                                                    You fucking ripped your friend off a few hundred dollars. The fck would he care about some low tier bs unusual

                                                                          https://backpack.tf/item/3131265346

                                                                          Within a month? Uhh...

                                                                            if you need clarification, it was when these incidences came to light regardless its still pretty relevant and doesnt excuse that trade either

                                                                              What do you mean “regardless”? Do you simply dismiss all facts other than those you wish to hear? Please stop slandering me.

                                                                                regardless in terms of when that trade was made vs when it was made aware to the community via a suggestion, also nice reverse card, and its slander if what one says is completely false with no backing. there is a fair amount of evidence against you but if you say that you arent a scammer/sharker i want to see what was said between you and the people you made these trades with and get their opinion as well if you cant produce legitimate evidence in your favor the community goes with what it is provided with

                                                                                  “its slander if what one says is completely false with no backing” Yes. Your comment above perhaps?

                                                                                    your trades, how you have been conducting yourself, ect provide the communitys backing as well as there is no evidence to back you up to avoid these claims as it stands right now, as such slander cannot be claimed until such evidence is provided by you

                                                                                      You are both very confusing and both need to learn how to be more succint, why argue about this anyways, 90+ comments for something that is most likely nlt going to be addressed by the relevant parties. I just say if you disagree with his method of doing business then don't deal with him, boycotting is the only thing that can be done once the damage has taken place

                                                                  As much as i think sharks, unbalanced traders and r3sp4wn alike are both sacks of shit, you can't really blame mods for not banning people like r3sp4wn (for commiting unbalanced trades, or as people commonly refer to them, sharks). To ban for sharking he would have to lie about prices, as that would fall under the bp.tf sharking rule set. And yeah people are gonna say the same argument for the hundredth time, "why don't they just change the definition of sharking so that they can ban sharks". Slight issue with that is the fact that the rules have to be clear and cut, and even the stupidest of users have to be able to understand it. I haven't seen anyone here proposing actual ideas or solutions on how to deal with the issue of unboxers getting ripped off. People such as tf2outpost have tried to do this, by saying "if you trade and pay x% of a hats price from an unboxer it equals a shark", however this opens up many loopholes such as paying a tiny bit more than the threshold and boom you aren't a shark. Same goes for if you set a # of trades that people can make that are unbalanced before they get banned, people will just do 1 below that and get off Scot free. Also with how unstable and outdated prices can be, how can you say if something's a shark/unbalanced trade or not. Take for example a scorching headsplitter, really overpriced, highest buyers at 160 keys, and a seller at 540, with a 3 year old price of 630. Say an unboxer sells for 200 pure, is that a shark? The unboxer only got close to a third of its "value" , however the buyer got "430 keys overpay", yet the hats extremely fucking overpriced, so would it be right to call the buyer a shark because he bought an overpriced hat for cheap, just because it came from the unboxer? Would your opinion change if it were say SexySparta being the seller and not being the unboxer. This is the real issue with sharking, defining what the fuck a shark actually is, i'm sure i'm gonna get downvoted to hell for not calling r3sp4wn a shark like a lot of people here seemed to think was a productive use of their time, but quite frankly with the current bp.tf rule set, r3sp4wn is not a shark, despite what community opinions may have you believe. But in the end if you guys want sharking to stop/have something done about it, rather than stirring up drama, an actual solution would be to try and find a definition for sharking which leaves no loopholes, nor uncertainty, and would be clear, just as many other rules are.

                                                                    Sharking will always be a grey area. Action is only really taken in extreme cases of manipulation, which this isn't an example of.